Beijing military museum – aviation

Another view…..

Hi,

The place is crawling with Tu-2s, well, they have at least 3

Actually, they have four! You might want to have a look at the scramble wiki or the the photo page which comes with it to check.

Antheii!!

The place is crawling with Tu-2s, well, they have at least 3 🙂 (more than what we’ve got)

Indeed its a J8-1. The J8-II has the cheek intakes. Incidentally, they are BIG aircraft.
Enclosed shots taken a couple of weeks back with a cheap cellphone camera -sorry!

In the second from top picture, what is the type last on the right?
Looks like a MiG 19 thats eaten too much! Compare with one next to it.

I think it’s an early Shenyang J-8 “Finback”, the later ones have a radar in the nose and the intakes moved to the wing-roots.

In the second from top picture, what is the type last on the right?
Looks like a MiG 19 thats eaten too much! Compare with one next to it.

the bottom aircraft is a tu2 used during late ww11 the chinese were useing them till the 80’s to break up thick ice in rivers:eek: with their cannon’s
paul
ps i belive that kermit weeks has a couple of these and there maybe more in the states

The one at the War Eagles Museum near Santa Theresa (New Mexico, US) was also acquired from China. My post and pictures of their Tu-2 (before it was repainted) are at the WIX forum: http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=49939&highlight=#49939

Tillerman.

Ok, make that one of only two survivors worldwide.:o Thanks for the correction, it’s nice to know there’s another. 🙂

There are three of the IDA family (at least) on public display. One in Thailand and two in China.
As to the Ki55/Ki36 issue, the Ki55 was supposedly a stripped Ki36 for training purposes, minus spats and some internal equipment.
As the one in Thailand is described as a Ki 55 but plainly has spats it would all seem a bit of a moot point. The IDA at Datangshan certainly also has spats and is likely to be an original Ki 36.
Since spats were often removed anyway in rough field conditions, I think you can take your pick. One Ki 55 -two Ki 36 or two Ki 36 , one Ki 55,
or three IDAs.

Hi,

Don’t suppose that there was any sign of the Mitsubishi A6M5 Zero that is said to be there?

Sorry for my (ahum) rather late reply 😉 , but as far as I know the Zero is, or at least used to be, in Datangshan

The drone is a delevopement of the Ryan Firebee family, AQM-34N, the mix up appears to stem from the fact that it was called the Type 147 by Ryan and looks quite different from the Vietnam era BQM-34A.

DOUGHNUT

Guess its right. Compare with this photo
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-34.html

Ok, make that one of only two survivors worldwide.:o Thanks for the correction, it’s nice to know there’s another. 🙂

he Tachikawa Ki55 “Ida”, the world’s only surviving example.

How about http://members.tripod.com/peterlewisdesign/thaimuseum/ida.htm ?

Some interesting pictures of what looks like a very interesting museum.
Just to clarify, it’s definately a Tu-2 and not a Pe-2. They’re easily confused, but the basic difference is that the the Tu-2 has radial engines, as well as being generally larger (the Tu-2 is only a tad smaller than a B25, a Pe-2 is more Blenheim/Boston sized, if that helps any!)

The jet in the last picture is a Nanchang Q5 “Fantan” fighter bomber. It’s a Chinese development of the MiG-19 and updated versions are still in service in China. The A5 export version is still in service in places like Bangladesh and North Korea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanchang_Q-5

Perhaps most interesting and certainly rarest of the bunch (in the ninth picture with the number 2 on the cowling) is the Tachikawa Ki55 “Ida”, the world’s only surviving example.

Isn’t that a Pe2, not a Tu-2 ?

The drone is a delevopement of the Ryan Firebee family, AQM-34N, the mix up appears to stem from the fact that it was called the Type 147 by Ryan and looks quite different from the Vietnam era BQM-34A.

DOUGHNUT

nope couldn’t see it there:(

Tu2? That’s not tupolev 2 is it?

The bottom one looks like a MiG 17 with a bifurcated intake and new nose .

Crosses fingers . . .
Don’t suppose that there was any sign of the Mitsubishi A6M5 Zero that is said to be there?

See http://mitsubishi_zero.tripod.com/preserved.htm

the bottom aircraft is a tu2 used during late ww11 the chinese were useing them till the 80’s to break up thick ice in rivers:eek: with their cannon’s
paul
ps i belive that kermit weeks has a couple of these and there maybe more in the states

any ideas what the one at the bottom is? never seen that type before 😮