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Tom Blair FW190

Any idea if the CAA have allowed this bird to carry out its test program in the uk or is this one off to the US without getting into british skies?:confused: has there even been any taxi tests since january?

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By: Phantom Phixer - 8th June 2007 at 17:29

Ive never been a fan of replicas but Ive seen the 190 twice at duxford over the last month or so and Im captivated by it.

The aircraft looks stunning does not look out of place alongside the dare I say real Hurri, Buchon and Spit.

I cant wait to see her up in the air and at that show Im not going to mention 😮

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By: Pete Truman - 8th June 2007 at 14:05

I think, dimensionally, it is smaller, but that big radial engine at the front makes the ‘190 seem a lot larger (in my opinion).

I think it has a lot to do with the taller undercarriage as well, if this thing would download my pics of the 3 together, you would see what I mean.

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By: jagdtiger - 8th June 2007 at 14:00

would be nice to see her in the static line up at legends next to the buchon.

I`ll second that! surely they won`t miss the chance to double the flightline walk attendance and the associated wedge 😀

taxiable too………. Hmmm, I wonder???! 😎

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By: DazDaMan - 8th June 2007 at 11:36

I always thought that FW190’s Were smaller than the spitfire or 109? the spit is 4 feet shorter but has a 2 foot larger wingspan. certainly was supposed to be one of the best fighters performance wise of WW2

I think, dimensionally, it is smaller, but that big radial engine at the front makes the ‘190 seem a lot larger (in my opinion).

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By: markstringer - 8th June 2007 at 11:32

i beleive that spitfire ltd have bought a d model version from flugwerk as well. Hopefully by registering the first example it will make it slightly easier(he says knowing the miles of paperwork ahead for some poor git to fill in!)

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By: Nashio966 - 8th June 2007 at 11:19

I always thought that FW190’s Were smaller than the spitfire or 109? the spit is 4 feet shorter but has a 2 foot larger wingspan. certainly was supposed to be one of the best fighters performance wise of WW2

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By: Pete Truman - 8th June 2007 at 10:15

It was interesting how much attention this aircraft was getting when I went to the BBMF at 50 thingy.
I saw it not long after it arrived and I had the hangar virtually to myself that day. On BBMF day, there were almost as many people round it as on the flightline walk, I wondered at the time how many actually thought it was the real thing, so it would be nice to see it out at Legends, possibly even having an engine run up and taxi.
What did surprise me was how big it is compared to the Spitfire and Buchon, was it not one of the first a/c with a semi reclining seat in order to combat G forces.

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By: markstringer - 8th June 2007 at 08:50

would be nice to see her in the static line up at legends next to the buchon.

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By: Nashio966 - 7th June 2007 at 22:17

still, even if they are ex buchons, Damiler benz engined 109’s are damn rare, even rarer if you are looking at real ww2 ones, draws me back to fond memories of black 6, i think i have video of the first time they started her up post restoration somewhere,:rolleyes: i seem to remember that initially they span the inertia start up too fast and she didn’t start, such a pity she was a gorgeous aircraft. these new build 190’s look like serious pieces of kit, whats the performance like compared to the original?

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By: DazDaMan - 7th June 2007 at 21:21

airworthy Damiler Benz 109’s are rarer than hell though. there cant be that many around that can fly!

One that’s actually flown – Bf109E CF-EML.

The two MBB ‘109Gs (D-FMBB/’FEHD) are both ex-Buchon, plus “Red 7” (D-FWME) is another ex-Buchon aircraft.

There’s another airworthy Bf109E, but still not flown I think.

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By: trumper - 7th June 2007 at 20:19

🙂 How are the CAA looked upon in other countries?
If they say “yes” to the FW190 flying will that set a precedent and the other aviation authorities take a more favourable view because of the CAA stance.

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By: Nashio966 - 7th June 2007 at 19:36

airworthy Damiler Benz 109’s are rarer than hell though. there cant be that many around that can fly! the chap that recovered the FW189 has an almost complete emil with its engine, a good project???

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By: Cees Broere - 7th June 2007 at 19:22

We need a Daimler Benz 109 at Legends!!!

Yes, we do but that has nothing to do with the other firms product:D

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By: The Blue Max - 7th June 2007 at 19:20

Just talken 6 months to get an N reg CAP10B onto the UK register so 12 months for efectively a new type seems like a breeze;)

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By: solent-steve - 7th June 2007 at 18:59

will it be outside in the static park for legends:) or left in the hanger?:(

all the best with the CAA:dev2:

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By: The Freshest - 7th June 2007 at 18:53

We need a Daimler Benz 109 at Legends!!!

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By: David Burke - 7th June 2007 at 18:16

Pete – It’s not really the case that the CAA are being bureaucratic about it. The Flug Werke machine isn’t a Focke Wulf FW-190 – it’s an aircraft that is very similar but there are notable differences .

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By: DazDaMan - 7th June 2007 at 11:29

after all, there are other examples flying, aren’t there

Just the prototype, last I read….

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By: Pete Truman - 7th June 2007 at 10:11

Has this aircraft been test flown in Germany?
Considering the well known efficiency of German engineering, I’m surprised that there are problems that could take a year to resolve, after all, there are other examples flying, aren’t there, or is it just that the CAA are like my all time favourite people, the planning authorities, a bunch of civil servants too carefull of guarding their pensions and not wishing to compromise themselves with making a decision that could be contraversial and need too much paperwork and risk to themselves.
Still, what do I know, I’m not even an erk on the subject.
Nice though to see Cliff Spink on the Forum, he obviously knows the score, must be frustrating though, he must be dying to get the beast up where it belongs, it must be very tempting.
Good luck, mate.

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By: mike currill - 6th June 2007 at 22:02

Cliff,

Thanks for the update and very best of luck trying to persuade the CAA to let you partake in the noble sport of aviation in this beast. I look forward with great interest to your comparisons in the future.

The 190 accompanying Walter Eichorns or EADS 109 and maybe a new build 262 would be some formation to have at Duxford in a year or two’s time!!!:diablo:

Cheers and best of luck.

Wouldn’t it just? I’m drooling merely thinking of it.

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