L-4B Piper Cub is a better fighter and more maneuverable then the ME-109.
L-4B Piper Cub outmaneuvered a ME-109 and kills it.
During September of 1943 near Naples, Italy, a German ME–109 fighter made a low–level attempt to shot down Capt. Schultz and “Janey”. Due to this low–level engagement and the high maneuverability of “Janey”, the hunter became the prey when the ME–109 over flew the tight turning “Janey” and crashed into a hill. Dutch was credited by the witnessing 3rd Division troops for downing this German Me–109 fighter. Dutch last saw “Janey” in May, 1945 on display beneath the Eiffel Tower during the Allies victory parade.
Of course before the quote, I was stating things kind of ridiculously.;) The story is true. I was kind using the same tactic that the media, politicians, and people that often post on message boards/ blogs.:rolleyes: Take something that is truthful and twist it and use it out of context as propaganda (to mislead) and or in delusion.
Though the kill doesn’t count in some ways, in some ways it does as it is a “technical kill”. Some would say the L-4B Piper Cub outmaneuvered the ME-109.
You have to admit an L-4B Piper Cub wining a fight with an ME-109 quite an accomplishment.:D
By: OHOPE - 12th May 2007 at 21:35
A Swordfish crew accomplished a similar feat involving an Fw190 late in the war .
By: ShabbyAbbey - 12th May 2007 at 16:26
Technically it’s a Kill….there were plenty of P-51 pilots that watched an adversary dive into the ground during an engagement and made successful claims. If it was witnessed, then the kill would have been confirmed.
Hats off to the L4 pilot for avoiding any further cannon shells.
Shabby
By: QldSpitty - 12th May 2007 at 09:13
I remember this one..
The Cub didn,t come out of it unscathed though.IIRC the 109 got a hit with a 20mm shell through the main spar on the Cub.The pilot didn,t realise the damage till he got her home.A lighter,more manouverable plane will always have an edge in a turn fight,that plus luck,a skilled pilot and a desire to live sometimes has the edge.
By: Propstrike - 12th May 2007 at 08:50
A wartime L4 would do about 80 mph on a good day. Later Super Cubs with engines up to 150 Hp might do 100- 115 mph, though the pitch of propellor fited makes a difference.
I suspect the 109 pretty much killed itself.
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th May 2007 at 08:42
It is not really a kill !, the ME109 was way faster than the cub which pootles along at what a 100 mph where the 109 would be using its speed possibly 250 mph and down in the weeds it could go either way.
Although i love how they say the cub is ‘highly manueverable’ what is the ME109 then a flying brick ?, and as for ‘winning a fight’ i think it was more luck than anything else.
curlyboy
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