April 4, 2007 at 10:42 am
We had a very interesting discussion recently about Falklands Air Kills. I would like to introduce a related topic.
Just as the Falklands War was ending in June 1982 , “Flight International” published a hard-hitting editorial (entitled “There’s something wrong with our bloody ships” ) in which they claimed that most of the British shipping losses in the conflict could have been avoided if all our warships had been fitted with automatic close-in gun systems such as the 20mm Vulcan Phalanx or the 30mm Goalkeeper.
But just how effective would such weapons have been against aircraft? Designed as they are to protect ships on an open sea they would have probably prevented the loss of “HMS Sheffield” and “HMS Coventry”.
Would they have been effective in Falkland Sound ,so close to land where there would have been much clutter on radar ? And would heavy calibre rounds which missed not been a hazard to our own ships and troops?
Prior to the San Carlos landings it was confidently expected that Seawolf armed ships would prove highly effective in Falkland Sound . In fact Seawolf would not work in radar – guided mode in Falkland Sound due to clutter and the one or two kills achieved by the system in this location required TV camera guided mode.
Also I believe that Phalanx has never been used successfully in anger. In the 1991 Gulf War there was an incident in which “HMS Gloucester” downed an Iraqi Silkworm (?) missile with Sea Dart. It was reported that a US vessel had tried to shoot down the missile with Phalanx and failed . Can anyone confirm this?
I would be interested to hear your expert views on these points.
Colin
By: Clave - 5th April 2007 at 22:01
Bloodhounds would have taken out the Etendards 50 miles away…
By: XN923 - 4th April 2007 at 13:13
History tends to show that the potential success of ship-based anti-aircraft systems is generally overrated, and the best thing for shooting down an aircraft (or keeping it away from your ships) is another aircraft. The reported attitude of ship captains and their perceptions of the level of success they could expect from their AA systems at the Falklands was comparable to the beginning of the Second World War (High angle MkXII 5″ and 12pdr pom-poms? Nothing could live through a barrage of that, surely?). It’s easy to suggest that if this or that had been available losses would have been mitigated, but in my opinion, what the task force needed was AEW as opposed to ‘picket ships’ and more aircraft on CAP.