RAF Museum, gaps in collection

is there eny pre-war flying boats left around today.. like Shorts Singapore, Saro London..

Yes, there is, and the RAFM’s got them, and they’re on show*. :rolleyes:

This thread’s turning to dribble.

*Try the fuselage of the Supermarine Southampton, an award winning unique and challanging restoration; the Supermarine Stranraer, flown by Short Belfast from Canada; and Supermarine Seagull V (sometimes thought of as a Walrus) from Australia.

is there eny pre-war flying boats left around today.. like Shorts Singapore, Saro London.. what about a Vickers Warwick…

Back to the original question (Gaps in the collection) how about:

Mustang I or II
Airacobra
Mitchell

Did the RAFM have a Ventura at some time?

The Ventura is in storage (I think at Cosford now). they do have a Mitchell at Hendon, a TB-25J – IIRC it’s painted in USAAF colours.

Back to the original question (Gaps in the collection) how about:

Mustang I or II
Airacobra
Mitchell

Did the RAFM have a Ventura at some time?

I shall be very naughty here and say Blackburn Beverley, or about the Avro Shackleton, was surprised to see that there wasn’t one at Cosford or was there’s cut up too.
There seems to be a large proportion of experimental aircraft in the collection so a Spiteful wouldn’t go amiss, nor would the Martin Baker MB5, when is the hybrid due to fly in the USA.

De Havilland Dove, Vickers Valetta, Canadair Sabre, Boeing Washington, Percival Prentice, Bristol Brigand, Dragon-Rapide.

Give up…

Pete,
The RAF museum have a Shack……the Science Museum in Manchester is its home.

C6

Out of curiosity, what happened to the Beverley?

I can remember it standing outside many years ago, but wasn’t anywhere to be seen when I visited last summer.

The beverly was scrapped many years ago and replaced by the fibre glass spit and hurricane. I think the cockpit survives somewhere.

Just to add a little information about the Canberra WT346 that may be of interest. Today i located in a box of stuff a copy of Contact – The Newsletter of the RNZAF Museum Summer 1993.

Inside it announces the arrival of the Canberra at the museum and says:

“The Canberra arrived by sea from Englandduring Easter, thanks to very generous gestures by AFFCO New Zealand, P&O New Zealand, and the Lyttleton Port Company. A further grant towards transport costs has been provided by the Trust Bank Canterbury Community Trust. The aircraft is now in No. 3 hangar and restoration has begun with work on its Avon engines by No. 1 Repair Depot.

WT346 has suffered from its 12 years out in the English weather and requires corrosion removal as well as minor repair. However it has been a pleasant surprise to find that the cabin is complete and in excellent condition. The components, such as Mk 3CS ejection seat and radios, needed to put this aircraft into the configuration of the RNZAF’s B(I)12’s is being assembled. WT346 was actually built in the same production batch as NZ6101, the first RNZAF B(I)12, so the conversion needed is only the addition of equipment specified by the RNZAF.”

Out of curiosity, what happened to the Beverley?

I can remember it standing outside many years ago, but wasn’t anywhere to be seen when I visited last summer.

It’s Wastwater and that’s what he told me 🙂

I must admit I wasn’t there for all the time. I was there during the scan of Ullswater but that was only two weeks. I do know that he went on to other lakes but don’t know which. Will have to have a word with him.

Ali

How come you can’t get a powered boat on to Wastwater, I know that the road up to it is a bit grim but we’ve been over Wrynose Pass with a minibus and Ford Transit full of scouts and camped out on Scaffell Pike, surely you could get a powered inflatable in the water at the pub end where all the freeloaders park up their camper vans and cause mayhem during the Three Peaks season, been there, seen it, but only in a supporting role due to a dodgy knee and of course the psychological problems about meeting an octopus on Scaffell Pike in the dark.
Isn’t Wastwater the deepest natural lake in the Lake District National Park, also, the route into it from the Irish Sea coast is relatively flat, before you almost instantaneously hit the really high stuff, so it could be hiding all manner of things that realised where they were and attempted to ditch rather than try to climb out of that pretty awesome valley.

I was told I couldn’t by someone who does a lot of boating there so I think I will check with the ranger to see if I have duff info.

Ali.

Bristol Bulldog

We have discussed a flying replica more than once.

I could be persuaded!

Now that has serious Frock Factor.

We have discussed a flying replica more than once.

I could be persuaded!

HP

Now that would be a sight at Old Warden. But your next target sounds even better to sit in the hangers.

Bristol Bulldog

We have discussed a flying replica more than once.

I could be persuaded!

HP

In one of the early posts on this thread someon mentions the Lockhead Electra as flown by Sidney Cotton for his early PR flights.

I believe the actual aircraft he used still exists. Surely this is something that ought to be in the “National Aviation Collection” as a very significant historic aircraft with an important operational background.

Anyone any info on this aircraft?

Google is your friend…

First result http://1000aircraftphotos.com/APS/2918.htm

can anyone send me a foto of a supermarine spiteful please im curious about what they look like

It’s Wastwater and that’s what he told me 🙂

That was a different lake. I was there. He was talking to the ranger to get permissions to get on to Wasswater.

Ali

Would be nice to see some pictures. The problem with that lake is you can’t get a powered boat on there so it’s either you can’t do a sonar scan or you get some fit blokes with a longboat.

Any volunteers?

Ali

How come you can’t get a powered boat on to Wastwater, I know that the road up to it is a bit grim but we’ve been over Wrynose Pass with a minibus and Ford Transit full of scouts and camped out on Scaffell Pike, surely you could get a powered inflatable in the water at the pub end where all the freeloaders park up their camper vans and cause mayhem during the Three Peaks season, been there, seen it, but only in a supporting role due to a dodgy knee and of course the psychological problems about meeting an octopus on Scaffell Pike in the dark.
Isn’t Wastwater the deepest natural lake in the Lake District National Park, also, the route into it from the Irish Sea coast is relatively flat, before you almost instantaneously hit the really high stuff, so it could be hiding all manner of things that realised where they were and attempted to ditch rather than try to climb out of that pretty awesome valley.

A Fairey Fulmar and a Blackburn Skua would be good to see in there. I know they have the only existing Fulmar over at Yeovilton, but I believe there aren’t any intact Skua’s. Is that correct?

While you’re there, an Albacore and a Barracuda too for good measure.

Allison – our mutual friend has told me he dived on it – apprently he saw a four gun rear turret down there.

That was a different lake. I was there. He was talking to the ranger to get permissions to get on to Wasswater.

Ali