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Sptifire recovered from Calais under rebuild to fly

Hi all,

Cees calling in again. Just returned from a two week holiday in Scotland. Loved it! Loch Ness was fabulous and I spoke a local who was a diver on the Wellington during the recovery and he even pointed out where she had lain for all those decades.

I bought my copy of FlyPast there as well and noticed that the ex Peter Cazenove’s Spitfire is finally being rebuild by Historic Flying. Great news. I have read the article in After the Battle magazine about the recovery and have seen the pic of Andy Saunders sitting in the cockpit with wings attached. What I wanted to know is if the tail section was recovered as well by the French or is it still under the sand?

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By: QldSpitty - 19th June 2006 at 08:52

Great pics Mark.Almost like an archeological dig these days.Wonder if in a hundred years time people will be doing this with the F18,s that have crashed over the years.

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By: G-ASEA - 18th June 2006 at 15:25

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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By: Mark12 - 18th June 2006 at 13:07

Is this the spitfire that was on display at the V3 site at Mimoyecques around 10- 15 years ago. If so it looked in a bad state. Dont think being under ground on display helped.

No that was N3200, but also owned now by the same partnership.

Possibly next in line for the ‘treatment’.

Where practical it will be provisioned for the economy of scale.

A shot below of N3200 at the recovery at Sangatte in 1986, courtesy of Jean-Pierre Duriez.

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By: G-ASEA - 17th June 2006 at 12:39

Is this the spitfire that was on display at the V3 site at Mimoyecques around 10- 15 years ago. If so it looked in a bad state. Dont think being under ground on display helped.

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By: Mark12 - 16th June 2006 at 21:57

P9374

I take it that the recovered data plate was considered to be in potentially ‘airworthy’ condition, following a full ndt inspection of course?

There are no fuselage or firewall data plates as such.

However both P9372 and P9373 (The ‘Time Team’ Spitfire) have been recovered and yielded plates indicating the cockpit/fuselage construction number.

At this early point in the build schedule, being adjacent aircraft and also compared to other surviving Spitfires, the construction numbers are sequential.

The number is 6S-30565.

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By: AndyG - 16th June 2006 at 21:38

I take it that the recovered data plate was considered to be in potentially ‘airworthy’ condition, following a full ndt inspection of course? :diablo:

I love your “Enough to to maintain a ‘thin but robust’ serial provenance” statements. Which considering that this will be a very ‘new’ airframe ultimately is perfectly acceptable under the circumstances. Not enough early Spits around at the moment.

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By: Mark12 - 16th June 2006 at 21:26

Considering the salt water buried environment, any idea how the materials survived? i.e. any airworthy parts recoverable?

Pretty rough and quite a lot of the recovered structure disappeared over a twenty year period. What is there will will yield a few fixtures, fittings, castings, forgings etc. Enough to to maintain a ‘thin but robust’ serial provenance and no difference from several current and recently completed Spitfire projects.

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By: AndyG - 16th June 2006 at 21:15

Considering the salt water buried environment, any idea how the materials survived? i.e. any airworthy parts recoverable?

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By: Mark12 - 16th June 2006 at 21:10

Thats amazing, was it uncovered like that for a long time?

No not very long.

It sort of surfaced in a very moving way, just as Peter Cazenove, the pilot, passed away.

Unfortunately it was recovered in a rather brutal way by the Harbour authorities – hawser and tractor, which was a great shame.

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By: AndyG - 16th June 2006 at 21:06

Thats amazing, was it uncovered like that for a long time?

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By: Mark12 - 16th June 2006 at 21:02

P9374, with empennage, still on the beach at Calais circa 1980.

Photo courtesy of Xavier Portier, via Jean-Michel Goyat, with thanks.

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By: HP57 - 16th June 2006 at 20:41

Hi Andy,

No, unfortunately not, We didn’t have the time. We passed through the Kielder forest where substantial Halifax wreckage is located but there wasn’t even time for that. Next time I’m sure to go have a look.

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By: AndyG - 16th June 2006 at 20:28

Did you have a scout about at any mass Halifax scrapping sites? Mostly farmers fields these days but infrastructure from the sattelite fields is still there.

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By: HP57 - 16th June 2006 at 19:40

Hello

Do you have any pictures of the recovery? that you can post.

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Hi there,

I’m afraid not as I have lost the issue. There was also a small snippet in one of the early FlyPasts.
Although I have a feeling both Andy Saunders and Mark 12 have some lying around. 😉

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By: jont122 - 16th June 2006 at 15:20

Hello

Do you have any pictures of the recovery? that you can post.

Regards

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