historic aircraft at cardiff

HMS Vulture have you received the photos of her in the museum yet I’ll keep an eye out for you and I’ll ask my father if he has some

XN650 Sea Vixen FAW2 Nose ,Newton Abbot ,Devon

At least one missing!

WW217 Sea Venom FAW.21 to Newark Air Museum

Updated List Of Aircraft At Wales Aircraft Museum

Wales Aircraft Museum, Cardiff

G-AOJC Viscount Seen at Enstone, Oxfordshire in 1996. Believed to now be at the bottom of a lake somewhere for diving.
G-WHIZ Viscount Actually G-ANRS. Believed scrapped
WB491 Avro Ashton Fuselage. Now at Newark Air Museum
WG718 Dragonfly Parts to YAM, Elvington
WE925 Meteor F8 Bankstown, Australia
WH798 Canberra PR7 Fuselage used as a Fire Training prop at Cardiff Airport Then ????? Scrapped most prob
WJ576 Canberra T17 NOse to Wolverhampton
WJ581 Canberra T17 Rear Fuselage, Canterbury, Kent
WJ944 Varsity Scrapped 1996. Nose to Holland
WL332 Meteor T7 Jet Aviation Preservation Group, Evesham
WM292 Meteor TT20 Stored FAAM Cobham Hall, Yeovilton
WR539 Venom FB4 de Havilland Aircraft Heritage Collection Just Off JCT22 M25 Complete Aircraft In Storage.
WT518 Canberra PR7 Scrapped Hanningfield Metals 1995
WV826 Sea Hawk FGA6 Ta Q’Ali Museum , Malta
WW388 Provost T1 Hemswell Museum then Sleap, Shropshire
WX788 Venom NF3 Doncaster AeroVenture, Doncaster, South Yorkshire
WZ425 Vampire T11 Birlingham, Worchestershire
XA459 Gannet AS4 Under restoration, Berkshire
XA903 Vulcan B1 Nose Wellesbourne Mountford Olympus 593 (Concorde Engine) Flying Test Bed
XG592 Whirlwind HAS7 Taskforce Paintball, Penllyn Estate Farm, Cowbridge, South Glamorgan CF71 7AQ (used as a prop) XG592
XG737 Sea Venom FAW22 Long Marston
XG883 Gannet T5. Berkshire Aviation Museum, Woodley
XJ409 Whirlwind HAR10 Maes Artro Heritage Museum, llandbedr
XL449 Gannet AEW3 Nose section Caberley 2003
XM300 Wessex HAS1 to Welsh Industrial & Maritime Museum now closed website advises the museums collection have moved to the new National Waterfont Museum in Swansea whether this aircraft went with it of if they still own it is a big question (in storage in Nantgarw, Caerphilly)
XM569 Vulcan. Scrapped Nose to Enstone then Property of the Jet Age Museum, Gloucestershire stored at Gloucester Airport.
XN650 Sea Vixen FAW2 Nose to Welshpool 2000 then Property of (username)HMS Vulture, Newton Abbot, Devon Thanks For The Info HMS Vulture. (starting to wonder where it had gone)
XN928 Buccaneer S1 Nose to Manston.
29963 T33 ??????
42160/really 54-2160 F100D was/is owned by the USAF museum, going by the ownership it may have gone back to the usa.??????
59 Mystere IVA believed scrapped date unknown. Mystere Info
E-409/ XF383 Hunter F51 City of Norwich Aviation Museum.
WV753/8113 Percival Pembroke C1 last seen in trees near crash gate 2 Rhoose ?????Pembroke Rhoose
ZF578 English Electric/BAC Lightning F.53 Now At Tangmere Military Aviation Museum
Vickers Valiant Nose Section identity unknown
Phantom Nose Section Identity unknown ?ZE350? Welshpool Powys?????

Hope this helps. Feel free for any corrections/amendments

otw28, not sure I can help with your original plan. I’m off on holiday tomorrow so will PM you when I get back as I’m sure we could have an interesting discussion anyway.

XG592 Whirlwind HAS7 is in the Taskforce Paintball Compound in cowbridge

Heres a link to their website there is a photo of it:-Taskforce Paintball

Also found this sight with a photo of the viscount G-AOJC:-Viscount G-AOJC

Really? Tell me more.

MarkG (from South Wales)

Well back when st athen had all the historic aircraft like the spitfires and other aircraft , he went all over wales with a patition to stop them moving to Hendon but he couldn’t stop it, then he came up with an Idea of finding an old hanger or building big enough to hold aircraft to maintain them back to flying standards, and have people on the dole / community service / volunteers ( I think my old man invented the idea of new deal ) to help do them up with training from staff at St Athan which he had arranged with St Athan but couldn’t find the funding to rent / buy a building so that plan went out the window.

when they shut down rhoose he said that if someone open an aircraft museum he would assist in anyway he could to start a new one, he also said that they was once offered a hanger ( Flying Club Hanger now ) on the otherside of the airfield when the museum was kicked off the airfield where the BAMC building is now the aircraft wouldn’t have got derilict and the museum may not of have gone bust.

So if you know anyone thinking of starting one please let me know.

what a shame about the vulcan cockpit i bet it is really damp in there now! Has anything been done to it at all?

…he wants to start another museum in south wales

Really? Tell me more.

MarkG (from South Wales)

zf578

When I was young my father was a member of the Rhoose museum (for his sins he never agreed with the managment on the markings and the way that they where looked after, but he wants to start another museum in south wales) I’ll never forget the viscount cafe effort they had there, the darkness of the vulcan, and watching my father and a few other puting the f100 together, but one of the last times I went down there with him they had received a BAC lightning F.53 ZF578 believed to be an ex saudi aircraft, at the time it was in bits and don’t think it was ever put together in Rhoose. (not sure) Anyway, it is now in Tangmere Military Aviation Museum near Chichester in West Sussex.
I have got some photos of it but can’t figure out how to get them onto this sight. Here are some links:

Lightning now:-
Tangmere Military Aviation Museum

Heres a picture of it whilst at Rhoose:- Rhoose Lightning

There was also a Phantom nose section Identity unknown, and wheres it gone ?????

Also I can tell you that one of the gannets possibly the AEW.3 was put on stand by incase it was needed for the falklands war, it wasn’t removed from the site but it was kept in service readyness (information via my father), and one of the gannets had its propellers removed to replace a set off another gannet still in service at the time (never saw them replaced)

I will ask my father to find the photos he took down there over the years.

Anyway if I find out more about any of the aircraft there I will post in to let you know

Apparently you need a username and password?

It worked when I last used it but now not. Hmmmm. Wonder why.

Ali

:confused:

Here is a nice picture.

www.divetheworld.com/images/stoney/aircraft.jpg

Ali

Apparently you need a username and password?

G-AOJC Viscount cockpit section is indeed a submerged diving attraction at Stoney Cove, near Hinckley, Leics. I’ll try get some piccies next time I go.

Here is a nice picture.

www.divetheworld.com/images/stoney/aircraft.jpg

Ali

I don’t believe the Viscount in Stoney Cove is G-AOJC – the machine in Stoney Cove is a former BMA machine which was sunk in the 1970’s there.

Yes, David – I think you’re right. One diving site quotes this as being G-AWXI. So – any idea where G-AOJC is ?

There’s some pics of the Viscount here http://www.scuba-skooling.co.uk/picture_gallery/scubatravelstoneycove.htm if it helps

I don’t believe the Viscount in Stoney Cove is G-AOJC – the machine in Stoney Cove is a former BMA machine which was sunk in the 1970’s there.

XN928 Buccaneer S1 Nose to Manston

Hope this helps. Feel free for any corrections/amendments

928 is resident with a private owner in Gravesend, Kent.

As for the Vulcan nose section, she is quite rightly, at Gloucester Airport, but the weather is already starting to take its toll on the paint work and their are large areas where it has bubbled up and starting to come away from the metal 🙁

Auster AOP.9 WZ662 (the prototype) which was at the Museum, is now airworthy and based at Eggesford in Devon. Its up for sale if anyone is interested 🙂

Martin

Does anyone have a list of the historic aircraft that were preserved at Cardiff (Rhoose) in the early severties, and what happened to them?

Hmm. “preserved” and “Cardiff” (as in Wales Aircraft Museum) are not two concepts I would normally associate with each other! 🙂

Sea air and museum owners with some very funny ideas conspired to treat some of the exhibits quite badly.

Anyway, to add to the list :-

Vulcan XM569 was reduced to a nose section and removed to Enstone. It was briefly disguised as a rocket ship (complete with silver paint and stuck on fins) to publicise the opening of “The Planets” in Woking, then rescued by Gary Spoors and now resides (fully repainted) in storage at Staverton. It was on display at RIAT at Fairford a couple of years back.

Hunter F.51 E-409 is currently at the City of Norwich Aircraft Museum as previously mentioned but is painted in a 74 Sqdn RAF scheme masquerading as XF383.

Many thanks for all the info. There is an elderley gentleman in my village who is now seriously ill. He claims he once owned one of the exhibits, but lost touch when he moved. He cannot even remember which airframe it was. He doeszn’t want any claim on it but would love to remember which it was and what happened to it. Thanks again

Interesting. Any clues ?