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who are familiar with flygplan?

I cry for some layouts before prototype of viggen, if some one here has these pics please make a comunication using message with me, or give some other discussion boards which are esp.to discusse flygplan viggen to me. to be sincerely grateful to u.

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By: franc - 6th March 2006 at 16:09

Hello Jan:
The book you mentioned just is I have been reading now. but there is no illustration in the book. I do have some picture post before if you do search of what all my posted in this board before. They are belong to 1400series I believe but what’s the accurate number?

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By: Jan - 6th March 2006 at 10:15

Franc,

A few years ago, an article on the various Saab projects appeared in Air Enthusiast. From memory, most of the various Saab projects, including the A36, were illustrated and described.

Re the development history of the Saab 37 Viggen, I would recommend Ingemar Dörfer’s book; System 37 Viggen : Arms, technology and the domestication of glory / Written under the auspices of the Center for international affairs, Harvard university, 1973.

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By: franc - 5th March 2006 at 04:40

Dear Papa Lima:
I have to say the picture you post is very interesting, as I have known the A36 is a kind of nuclear bomber develop from project1350, whereas 1400 series also is a kind of cupercruise bomber like British TSR.2 which shape also are very closer to TSR.2 or Soviet SukhoiT-4 or TsybinNM-1, but what the 1400 series’s shape just is my suspect. I do want a confirmation from you. The bigger problem is if what I said was correct, then how the 1500 series that based on 1300 series and 1400 series develop to a Canard FIGHTER aircraft. I am reading a book called System 37 Viggen, which has mentioned all my said here by some littile signs but with pictures, so I want some picture to prove all my guesses and questions. Here is one of the web about A36 bomber to share with you. http://travels.larp.se/xplane/a36/a36.html
I think rest of 1300 series and what’s a 1400 series have to rely on your books.
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By: Papa Lima - 4th March 2006 at 15:31

SAAB design sketches

franc,
The only SAAB design sketches I have found are these, for SAAB project 1300-76. Thet are from an Aricle by Bo Widfeldt in “Flyg 92”, the Swedish aviation annual.
I must say that this article would be very interesting for SAAB aficionados, with sketches of projects from 1935 onwards, including the L-23 fighter which was virtually a Mustang. Designed in 1941, it was planned to have an ejection seat!
The 1300 series projectwas begun in 1952 to design a successor to the Draken, and 1300-76 shown here would have been powered by a Bristol Olympus engine.At heightit would have been capable of Mach 2.4, and Mach 1.3 at low height, armed with missiles. The project was abandoned in 1957.
The Viggen was the result of project 1504B, but I have no details of that project.

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By: franc - 4th March 2006 at 14:32

I mean the layout before prototype of viggen, which also means there are many layouts exist before the prototype of viggen you posted above.

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By: Papa Lima - 4th March 2006 at 12:59

The SAAB 37 Viggen variants were:
AJ37 – single-seat all-weather attack
JA37 – all-weather fighter with mainly air-to-air weapons
SF37 – armed photo-reconnaissance
Sk37 – 2-seat dual trainer
I do not understand what you mean by 1300, 1400 and 1500 series.

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By: franc - 4th March 2006 at 12:31

Thank for both Papa Lima and Jan, you are so enthusiastic,factually, I want all of 1300 series 1400 series those are bomber layouts as I have already known and 1500 series pictures of layout with intruduce. Some of books about Viggen I have seen before, but never found out pictures of those layout only few words mentioned 1300, 1400, 1500 series. Would you please scan those pictures of layouts to my email if they’re really published? Some books I have no way to find out of library, sorry, I am really poor with no money to buy every books which dissertate viggen.

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By: Jan - 3rd March 2006 at 10:16

Franc,

Several books have been published on the Saab 37 Viggen, the most recent being Viggen by Swedish author Sven Stridsberg. Although written in Swedish, the book has nearly 400 photos and illustrations as well as an English-text supplement.

Robert Dorr’s English-text book on the Viggen was published in the mid-1980s in Ian Allan’s Modern Combat Aircraft series, and included photos and drawings of the mockup and the prototypes.

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By: Papa Lima - 3rd March 2006 at 07:41

Viggen prototype 37-71

Courtesy of “Svensk Flyghistorisk Tidskrift”, the journal of the Swedish Aviation Historical Society, of which I am a member, here is a Saab-Scania photograph of prototype Viggen 37-71, after modification to JA (Fighter/Attack) standard. The original RM8A engine had been replaced by an RM8B, which meant a lengthening of the fuselage. The modifications also strengthened the wings and rudder, and an additional hydraulic cylinder was added to the flaperons, as shown in the photo.
-71 was written off after a crash on 27 August 1975 when a turbine blade failure during take-off caused pilot Per Pelleberg to eject; he survived.

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By: Papa Lima - 3rd March 2006 at 07:16

Viggen prototype 3-view

If this is what you are looking for, here is a 3-view drawing of the Viggen in its prototype form, dating from 1964.

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By: franc - 3rd March 2006 at 03:56

Would you please give me a link to show some layout before prototype of viggen directly?

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By: Kenneth - 2nd March 2006 at 20:25

who are familiar with flygplan?

I am! “Flygplan” merely means “aeroplane” in Swedish…! The forum in the Swedish Aviation Historical Society could be a good starting point for the development history of the Viggen (which is Swedish for “thunderbolt”):

http://www.sff.n.se/

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