Build your Own hurricanr – just like the magazines… bit by bit by bit

At least some people are prepared to actually sell items,there are plenty of accounts of items rotting away when the owners just will not consider a sale.
I know its not just aviation items that suffer.

well it appears I was very wrong regards the relevance of this particular Ebay auction item! and sorry for that Rocketeer, as it appears you have created quite a bit from just such items.
well done.
So, I am curious, as one who does benefit from such items, do you get frustrated when you see items that are labeled as bits of aviataion, such as fabric remnants, and bits of merlin block advertised at what appear to be silly prices. And tend to be purchased by someone who wants an aviation artifact with “history”
does this not tend to raise prices for individuals like yourself that can really benefit from such items for template use as you say?

I take it you asked this as a general question,

Yes, i do get frustrated when I see this happen. And there must be more like us who are doing something sensible with these parts and see them going for “gold”.

Cheers

Cees

Rocketeer, nice job. Look forward to seeing it one day.

well it appears I was very wrong regards the relevance of this particular Ebay auction item! and sorry for that Rocketeer, as it appears you have created quite a bit from just such items.
well done.
So, I am curious, as one who does benefit from such items, do you get frustrated when you see items that are labeled as bits of aviataion, such as fabric remnants, and bits of merlin block advertised at what appear to be silly prices. And tend to be purchased by someone who wants an aviation artifact with “history”
does this not tend to raise prices for individuals like yourself that can really benefit from such items for template use as you say?

Just to wade into this debate myself, I have purchased items from this seller and can confirm that he knows what he’s talking about, (I believe he is a former employee of one of the UK’s formost restoration workshops) in fact he’s probably a member of this forum ; although that last statement probably contradicts the first !! and yes Rocketeer’s project will take him a “squillion years” but he’s only young (and it keeps him away from the spitfire bits!!).

Thanx Trumper…it is every now and then….I plan to try and get it out this year…and (before anyone adds) and the hurricane lol! 😀 😀

LOL,well,if its ever going on tour please tell us all 😉

Thats a lovely looking project Rocketeer,you should be very proud.Is it viewable to the public?

Thanx Trumper…it is every now and then….I plan to try and get it out this year…and (before anyone adds) and the hurricane lol! 😀 😀

Thats a lovely looking project Rocketeer,you should be very proud.Is it viewable to the public?

you know what… i was having a little browse and came across this item…. thought it was a giggle what with all the ‘buy 300 editions of magazine X and you too could own this radio controlled sptfire’

but it seems that i have ruffled a few feathers without meaning too. this i suppose is an apology for taking the Pi%s

Are you a pirate now Rocketeer? 😉

And whats wrong with being a pirate?!!! 🙂 Worked for Orlando getting the lovely Keira!!

I was actually quoting (badly) Blackadder….yes it is…I’m not a tourist!!!

Anyway, not wishing to rock the boat, I must keep my powder dry and get my hooks into my hurricane project whilst wrapping up warm to prevent me going off half-**** and freezing the balls off my brass monkey 😀 aharrrrrrghhhhh!

And keep it on thread…..HURRICANES RULE!! 😀

Are you a pirate now Rocketeer? 😉

LOL!

Bertie! Of Course! He’s the only one who understands…. right…he’s your special friend….:D 😀

ROTFL!

TT

(Nice Hurriplane -much sexier than a Splatfire)

Indeed that be true!!!

LOL!

Bertie! Of Course! He’s the only one who understands…. right…he’s your special friend….:D 😀

ROTFL!

TT

(Nice Hurriplane -much sexier than a Splatfire)

Lovely Hurri Rocketeer, like the flying overalls look but you look a bit pasty, suggest regular intake of IPA to put some colour in yer cheeks 😉

Oi cheeky!! Spitfire Ale if you dont mind!! 🙂

Besides that is Bertie!!

Lovely Hurri Rocketeer, like the flying overalls look but you look a bit pasty, suggest regular intake of IPA to put some colour in yer cheeks 😉

Cheers Dave, but Mr Canadair deserves a reply for his troll!!!

Canadair:

1. You have to know who is selling it (which I do – its not me)

2. You have to realise that getting accurate drawings/patterns for Hurris is very very difficult. This item would at the least provide dimensions and £14 or whatever would be a small price to pay

3. You also have to realise that this chap (who has given up his project) has been selling 100+ items, and I and others have benefitted (I have bout 20+)

4. I can assure you it is not ” 1940’s – 1990’s era washing maching!! so what relevance would that particular tube have to a “hurricane cockpit recreation” so it is relevant

5. I have been restoring a Hurri from scrap for almost 30 years, your recrteation of a tube would not fool me (indeed I have made some tubes myself)

6. So you understand tubing…good on yer…see my original post to see that I was making a wild sweeping generalisation like you indeed did.

7. Finally, you have to realise that one man’s rubbish is another man’s gold. Your email was offensive lavbelling people like me idiots and you do not know me.

You say “But I am pretty sure if I was “rebuilding a Hurricane” as you say, I would have the sense to pass this particular example up.” not if you wanted to get it finished you wouldnt…it has a worth…not a huge amount granted, but it has a worth.

“and lets qualify this, by the ebay statement, not to mention common sense, this item is by no means airworthy, ITS A BENT DENTED RUSTED BROKEN TUBE!, so beyond this it would only be at a stretch usable for a “recreation” and for that purpose even if it was real, what possible relevance would it have??? Your Turn mate OK”[/QUOTE]……

its relevance to me?

a. It is Hurricane,

b. it would provide at least an accurate measure of N-O, a tube I do not have

c. My project is a static that is at the moment 85% original, this part is original and would cost me approx £100 to make, so I would have a go at using it.

So yes it has value to me….so I presume you still think I have no sense?!

Unfortunately, people out there will no doubt outbid me now. 🙁

Please do not rubbish the efforts of people like me in trying to create museum worthy memorials out of scrap/rubbish and labelling us as stupid.

I think Rocketeers outstanding progress to date on his (all original) Hurricane project speaks volumes without commenting further.

Thus………

You have evidently never been involved in a deep restoration project of any mass produced item.

If you are involved in a project like that, you can quite easily recognise a genuine item that would be unrecognisable for anyone who isn’t involved in such a project.

Sure, it might be easy enough to produce a replica of the tube, but many restorers take pride in using as large a percentage of original parts as possible, and would much prefer to spend twice as long straightening and repairing an original tube as they would make a new tube.

Oh, and before you bring up that it “may be straightened” at one end, as per use of Hawker dies, therefore authentic, gimme the aforementioned 4130 tubing and 5 minutes with a vice, and you have the “relic”
However, if you really feel that I am an idiot to critise this particular auction item, I suggest you bid on it, as you obviously feel it has relevance in the world of Historic avaition, and will no doubt appreciate in value!

Rocketeer:
By looking at that tube, which by the way appears to have no identifiable ends, in other words beyond the statement from the owner of where it comes from, it could just as easily be from a 1940’s – 1990’s era washing maching!! so what relevance would that particular tube have to a “hurricane cockpit recreation”? I am pretty sure I could produce an identical looking piece of tubing from 4130 035 wall 3/4 inch and once I beat the crap out of it, snapped it at both ends and after painting it with zinc cromate left it out back for a year or so, I could toss it up on Ebay with a similar description!
So, from a practical point of view if I was re-creating a cockpit section I think I could find many better ways of spending 14+ pounds!!
and as to my prior experience with building, restoration, restoration, none, but I have built 3 Pitts S1S from plans, and still own and fly the last one. so, guess what, I understand tubing!
I would have no idea by looking at a bent piece of tubing like that one shown just what it came from, if anything, but I just cannot get excited about a piece of tubing purported to be from a Hurricane, just because the “owner” says so. But I am pretty sure if I was “rebuilding a Hurricane” as you say, I would have the sense to pass this particular example up.
and lets qualify this, by the ebay statement, not to mention common sense, this item is by no means airworthy, ITS A BENT DENTED RUSTED BROKEN TUBE!, so beyond this it would only be at a stretch usable for a “recreation” and for that purpose even if it was real, what possible relevance would it have???
Your Turn mate
OK