January 25, 2006 at 12:22 am
Not sure if this site has been reviewed here before. Found the link on a Swedish aviation forum!
T J
By: JDK - 27th January 2006 at 12:05
Proctors.
A certain poster here did an article in Issue 1 of Warbird Digest on the Proctukas. Other listing magazines are available.
If Viv Bellamy won’t take one downhill, it’s probably a very bad idea to try…
See Robert Rudhall’s excellent books on the subject if you are really interested, or do a search ere for more.
Cheers
By: XN923 - 27th January 2006 at 10:44
😮 😮 😮
mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa…..
Understandable; I have heard the ‘Proctukas’ referred to in several publications as either Proctors or Prentices – but which was it?
By: Swiss Mustangs - 27th January 2006 at 10:32
😮 😮 😮
mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa…..
By: galdri - 27th January 2006 at 10:28
Percival Prentice, not a Proctor by a long shot 😀
By: Swiss Mustangs - 27th January 2006 at 09:58
for comparison
By: XN923 - 27th January 2006 at 09:36
Didn’t they remove the wings, add a new ‘cranked’ centre section and then reattach the original wings?
I can’t imagine why they couldn’t manage a steep dive…
Pretty enterprising project though, shame it never came to anything.
By: DazDaMan - 27th January 2006 at 08:43
Not sure, but I believe they were “created”/converted by the late Viv Bellamy (?) and were deemed almost lethal to fly. I’m sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
That’s about right. In the thread where I found that Proctuka photo, it’s mentioned that it wasn’t a pleasant ride! All three of them were scrapped in the end.
By: Auster Fan - 27th January 2006 at 08:34
Correct. The “Proctuka”, so-called because it was in reality a converted Percival Proctor, couldn’t have handled the steep dives of the real thing. Something tells me it wasn’t entirely pleasant to fly, either.
And here’s a link to a photo of one:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=26906
Not sure, but I believe they were “created”/converted by the late Viv Bellamy (?) and were deemed almost lethal to fly. I’m sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
By: DazDaMan - 27th January 2006 at 08:23
I read they used models for the attack scene as the stuka’s they created were thought to be unsave to fly?
Correct. The “Proctuka”, so-called because it was in reality a converted Percival Proctor, couldn’t have handled the steep dives of the real thing. Something tells me it wasn’t entirely pleasant to fly, either.
And here’s a link to a photo of one:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=26906
By: jasop - 26th January 2006 at 23:40
Has anyone got any pics/links of the spanish Heinkels in service. I thought there would be plenty but i cant find any
Cheers for any help 🙂
By: Fouga23 - 26th January 2006 at 23:17
I read they used models for the attack scene as the stuka’s they created were thought to be unsave to fly?
By: Septic - 26th January 2006 at 22:19
I was browsing in a local bookshop, when I came across a book on wartime Kent which had a photo of a crashed Stuka beside a broken off RDF mast. The Stukas code began ‘W8′ IIRC. This and the way the mast was broken off at about 20’/30’ (reminded me of an image I think I saw here) made me think it was really from the ‘BoB’ film rather than an actual 1940 image.
Geoff.
Was it this one Geoff.
Septic.
By: Geoff K - 26th January 2006 at 21:45
Daz, don’t know the date, but will pop into the shop again when I get the chance.
Geoff.
By: DazDaMan - 26th January 2006 at 08:13
So, there was a female Buchon pilot? Who was she? Was she Spanish Air Force? Or just a poser?
I’ve been wondering that myself, Dave. Would be interesting to find out…
By: Dave Homewood - 26th January 2006 at 07:56
Great link TJ. That’s a fantastic collection of photos. It’d be great if Leonard Moseley’s book could be re-released with such a collection putting names to faces, as both the photos and the book are such a relaxed behind the scenes view.
So, there was a female Buchon pilot? Who was she? Was she Spanish Air Force? Or just a poser?
By: DazDaMan - 25th January 2006 at 21:42
MJ772
Mark12 posted a picture of this particular Spit, but taken from the front, some time ago. Can’t find it, however 🙁
By: The Blue Max - 25th January 2006 at 21:30
Got this one of the two seat Spit when it made an unschedled arrival at RAE Bedford durring the filming. Pic was talken by Eric Gayton who worked there at the time.
By: DazDaMan - 25th January 2006 at 20:27
Geoff – did you happen to see when the book was published? I seem to recall a shot on the movie with a Stuka’s fuselage lying beside an RDF mast, too.
By: Geoff K - 25th January 2006 at 19:28
I was browsing in a local bookshop, when I came across a book on wartime Kent which had a photo of a crashed Stuka beside a broken off RDF mast. The Stukas code began ‘W8′ IIRC. This and the way the mast was broken off at about 20’/30’ (reminded me of an image I think I saw here) made me think it was really from the ‘BoB’ film rather than an actual 1940 image.
Geoff.
By: 'lectra - 25th January 2006 at 19:00
Thanks for all the responses, the info on the mods is appreciated as are the pics.
Curiosity satisfied !
Bruce