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Anson drawings?

We, at the RCAF Memorial Museum at Trenton, Ontario, have just about finished the Halifax restoration after 10years and 4 months work and we are about to start on the restoration of an Anson II. Does anyone know of the location of any early model Anson drawings?

Someone thought the aircraft would take up less space if the wing was chainsawed into short lengths, so we urgently need main spar drawings. 😡

I have received negative responses from IWM London, I am awaiting a response from IWM Duxford and the RAF Museum. I have tried all the Canadian options (the Mk II was a Mk I built in Canada with Jacobs engines and some other changes such as hydraulic u/c, heaters and less windows etc.) but thus far no luck. 🙁

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By: Peter - 23rd January 2006 at 17:10

Hello Deryck That is great news I thought Nanton may be the best people to talk to quite friendly as well.

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By: Deryck - 21st January 2006 at 17:28

Hi Guys,
OK, I now seem to have located the Anson drawings! Nanton has a set which they obtained from George Ryning of the Calgary Museum. They are willing to give us copies, but suggest that we get copies from the originals held by Calgary. (Calgary had earlier auto-responded that they were to be away until the end of this week.)
My thanks to all who responded.
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By: Deryck - 20th January 2006 at 16:38

Hi Turretboy,

I do not know where it is alleged to be coming from. We, in the back shop, only hear about some of the stuff the front office is dreaming about. You may be right!
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By: Deryck - 20th January 2006 at 16:29

Hi Halibag-Phil, Can your pictures wait until April? I will not be back until then. If you need them earlier I can get one of the other guys (who enjoy winter) to shoot them for you. Remind me in April, if I do not get back to you.
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By: Neil Medcalf - 20th January 2006 at 05:02

BCAM Anson

MRP – excellent post. I think you’ve missed a 6th (not sure – I didn’t know of any of the ones you’ve mentioned!) at Sidney, BC with BCAM, just finished recently. From talking to them they were looking at the ‘cut spar’ approach. (Note it was mentioned by Neil at the beguinning, but there are some great photos off from the aircraft’s own page. Enjoy

Yes the BCAM went with the cut spar approach. They did this as they didn’t have the room in the restoration shop to do the wing in one go! The project was going to be a static rebuild from the start as well. Because of the ‘cut spar’ approach they were able to fit in an Auster and a Norseman and a S55 into the restoration shop at the same time. The Norseman was completed a year before the Anson and was done to flyable condition. The S55 was a simpathetic restoration. The Museum is currently still working on the Auster to flyable standard and have started to work on a Harvard.

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By: Peter - 20th January 2006 at 03:16

You missed a 7th as well as our annie mk2 restoration is coming along nicely with all the Wood work for the fusleage being repaired or replaced.

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By: Halibag-Phil - 19th January 2006 at 23:34

Thanks Deryck

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The only interior bits I still need are the top escape hatches interior and exterior if poss. Thanks to the wonderfull pictures from the likes of Turretboy, British Cannuk and others I have been able to sit and stare for hours on end. Great idea on making the interior available by video.
I myself have endevored to take longer building a model than you did the real thing 😮
I am very very lazy though 🙂

Cheers
Phil

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By: JDK - 19th January 2006 at 22:42

MRP – excellent post. I think you’ve missed a 6th (not sure – I didn’t know of any of the ones you’ve mentioned!) at Sidney, BC with BCAM, just finished recently. From talking to them they were looking at the ‘cut spar’ approach. (Note it was mentioned by Neil at the beguinning, but there are some great photos off from the aircraft’s own page. Enjoy.

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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 21:26

Hi MRP, I am waiting for the guy I need at Calgary to get back to me. It sure sounds like it might be the place to start.

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By: MRP - 19th January 2006 at 19:51

Anson

A total of five Anson wings have been built in Canada to date, These are the example in Calgary( Calgary Aerospace Museum, Saskatoon (Western Development Museum) Alberta Aviation Museum, Edmonton and at Brandon( CATP Museum). I am sure that Calgary would be the place to start, as you can see what a job they did on building up the wings. I think it took them almost 15 years to do it.There was an article in a CAHS journal a few years ago about the restoration.
The Greenwood Anson also came from Wetaskawin, where there are at least three or pieces of left.
Most of the museums have taken a different approach with building the wings. Some have built outer wings to add on to cut center spars, while Calgary started from scratch with basic spars and built the complete wing up.As with all these aircraft, the identity is always a little suspect unless you find a plate.

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By: turretboy - 19th January 2006 at 19:19

Possibly the Harvard from Smith Falls?

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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 19:16

Hi Peter,
Yes.
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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 19:15

Hi Turretboy, Good shots! I am in Florida and have not been in the shop for a while, they seem to be moving along with the sorting out. The aircraft came from Wetaskiwin, I am not sure of the exact id. I can try to find out. We dismantled and packed up a Tutor for them and they shipped us the remains of the Anson. We have a Yukon sitting down in South America someplace and I hear rumours of a Tiger Moth and a Harvard, so we can use some more volunteers! Deryck

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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 19:06

Hi Halibag Phil, There was no restriction on our taking any pictures of the interior when I was last there. The only restraint was the interior was not finished in time for the official “Unveiling”. (Let’s face it some of the exterior wasn’t either!) I have taken Press folks through the interior to shoot stuff, the only restriction was they were not to publish prior to the official unveiling. Final plans were talking about video cameras in the interior for folks to see the layouts. If there is anything particular you want let me know. Deryck

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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 18:58

Thanks BarnOwl,
Looks like a late Mark, 19, 20 or 21, with metal wings. I have forwarded them to the shop.
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By: Peter - 19th January 2006 at 18:22

Mike didn’t this come from wetaskiwin?

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By: turretboy - 19th January 2006 at 17:34

Hi Deryck.

I was at the museum on Sunday to snap a few pictures of the Halifax. What a great job you guys have done!!

I also took a few pictures of the Anson. I hope you don’t mind, but I thought I would just post them here instead of starting my own new thread. I understand the aircraft came from western Canada. Might you be able to tell us more about the identity of this aircraft?

Keep up the great work!
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By: Halibag-Phil - 19th January 2006 at 14:08

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Great work on the Halifax. One question will there be any pics available of the interior when finished. I hope it will not be like YAM’s example were no pics of the interior have been forthcoming for many years. Some vets have been allowed inside but I have seen no pics posted anywhere. Good luck with the Anson and if its anything like the Halifax it will be a cracker.

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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 13:56

Hi Aeronut,
This sounds promising, I will attempt to follow it up.
Thanks
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By: Deryck - 19th January 2006 at 13:54

Hi Fouga,
Thanks for the suggestion, Greenwood is already working with us on this.
Deryck

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