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Can anyone tell me if the roundel used on this fuselage is accurate – were they ever used without the white ring between red and blue?

http://rcmf.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/mosquito.jpg

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By: steve_p - 25th December 2005 at 12:39

According to Mason’s ‘The British Bomber’, 455 used Hampdens at Swinderby from July 41 until April 42! Not that it matters, it’s certainly wrong for a Mossie.

And yes, Happy Christmas to all.

After that, they went over to Coastal Command and continued using the Hampden at Leuchars and briefly, the USSR, before re-equipping with the Beaufighter in 1943.

The Australian War Memorial has an online copy of the 455 (Australia) Squadron ORB. It’s well worth a read.

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By: TempestNut - 24th December 2005 at 22:17

Interestingly, for some at least, 487’s original compliment of aircraft were painted in the day fighter scheme and not as nearly all subsequent mossie fighters in the night-fighter scheme. EG-T ( MM417 ) is one of these early aircraft. Apparently the pilots reported that the scheme was too visible, and preferred the night fighter scheme of medium sea grey all over with a disruptive pattern of green on the upper surfaces. 487 was one of the original FB6 squadrons having reluctantly been asked to give up the Ventura.

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By: WebPilot - 24th December 2005 at 19:37

455 (Australia) Squadron were using Hampdens with dulled down roundels into 1943, but I agree that it was primarily an early war thing. Maybe the modeller is using this source and has not got round to applying the white yet?

http://www.rafweb.org/SqnMark485-490.htm

Of course, being the owner he can paint it any way he likes. 😀

Have a great Christmas and New Year guys.
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According to Mason’s ‘The British Bomber’, 455 used Hampdens at Swinderby from July 41 until April 42! Not that it matters, it’s certainly wrong for a Mossie.

And yes, Happy Christmas to all.

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By: steve_p - 24th December 2005 at 15:47

455 (Australia) Squadron were using Hampdens with dulled down roundels into 1943, but I agree that it was primarily an early war thing. Maybe the modeller is using this source and has not got round to applying the white yet?

http://www.rafweb.org/SqnMark485-490.htm

Of course, being the owner he can paint it any way he likes. 😀

Have a great Christmas and New Year guys.
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By: WebPilot - 24th December 2005 at 14:59

Sharp & Bowyers “Mosquito” has a number of colour schemes illustrated, but none have the dulled down roundel as in the photo – also I think this was only used in the very early war years by early types such as the Wellington, Hamdpen etc, so it would be out of place on a Mossie.

The camo scheme is a little untoward as well – the demarkation line between upper and lower surfaces on the fuselage sides is usually aligned between the wing and just below the tailplane.

That aside, nice model!

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By: HP57 - 24th December 2005 at 12:05

Having seen the Narnia-movie at the Empire cinema at Leicester Square last weekend, I must admit being impressive with the Heinkel 111 footage in the beginning of the film.

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By: mike currill - 24th December 2005 at 11:26

Nice model, though.

633 Sqn remake anyone?

No! Some of it was good, some of it was bad. If they did a remake it would probably come all bad and I couldn’t handle that

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By: steve_p - 23rd December 2005 at 17:55

I’ve a sneaking feeling that the guy who painted the Mossie has not made a mistake. The red portion looks to me a tad too big to be a standard Type B. Its more consistent with a C1 that has had the white overpainted with red.

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By: HP57 - 23rd December 2005 at 17:45

Early on in the war, some Bomber Command units painted over the white in the roundels. Never seen it done on a Mossie though.

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Indeed, they were used on Wellingtons

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By: steve_p - 23rd December 2005 at 17:40

Early on in the war, some Bomber Command units painted over the white in the roundels. Never seen it done on a Mossie though.

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By: DazDaMan - 23rd December 2005 at 16:12

I used to have a 1/10th scale Mossie in 109 Squadron markings (GB-A), wish I’d kept it so I could have seen it fly! 🙁 Had to sell it ‘cos it was a bit of a hazard! :rolleyes:

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By: 682al - 23rd December 2005 at 15:58

Nice model, though.

633 Sqn remake anyone?

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 23rd December 2005 at 15:53

As DLT would say….quack quack oops….. 😀

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By: hunterxf382 - 23rd December 2005 at 15:49

The aircraft it was representing was EG-T ( MM417 ) of No 487 Sqn RNZAF, No. 140 wing, No. 2 Group, 2nd TAF.
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Ya mean this one: 😀

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By: hunterxf382 - 23rd December 2005 at 15:46

RAF Roundel History

This link might help – the official guide from the RAF itself – seems that the white was always there until recently (I was in RAF from 1978, and 2 tone markings without white appeared from early 70’s.)

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By: Slipstream - 23rd December 2005 at 15:43

The aircraft it was representing was EG-T ( MM417 ) of No 487 Sqn RNZAF, No. 140 wing, No. 2 Group, 2nd TAF.

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By: hunterxf382 - 23rd December 2005 at 15:42

Yeah, doesn’t look right without the white – although need to check that there weren’t some exceptions made with markings during the wartime period – these things happen….

Pic shows RR299 as it flew in preservation:

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 23rd December 2005 at 15:39

Yes I was right – should be a Type C1 on the side, he has gone for Type B with yellow edging which is wrong wrong wrong – and a bit rubbish as pictures of this aircraft can easily be found on the web

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 23rd December 2005 at 15:34

Doesnt look right to me should have white in it

Looks like 487 Squadron codes (RR299?)

– Bruce?

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