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The last RAF Open Cockpit Fighter?

Just had an airminded Client who asked what the last RAF open cockpit fighter was…and i had to stop and think – not the Glad cos it had a lid, not the Stringbag cos it was FAA –

I imagine it must be the Hawker biplane series – Fury etc – am I wrong? :confused:

(Easy with other countries, CR42 1-16 etc)

Bit leftfield but it threw me! 😮

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By: Pete Truman - 7th December 2005 at 14:18

Weren’t Tiger Moths being prepared as an emergency measure to strafe and spray chemical weapons on German landing beaches should Operation Sealion have been carried out, Moth v 109 could have been a bit one sided I should have thought.

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By: steve_p - 6th December 2005 at 20:18

Two guns in the nose as well, just like a Sopwith Camel. 😮

Wasn’t an operational flight though.

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By: G-ORDY - 6th December 2005 at 19:11

Unless you count the English Electric Lightning F.1a – one of which, IIRC, took off and completed a circuit without its cockpit canopy … but with a very shaken pilot on board. At an MU in the 60s I think!

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 6th December 2005 at 17:24

Well, you live and learn, Gauntlet it is!

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By: vildebeest - 6th December 2005 at 15:40

Vildebeests were indeed used against the Japanese. Indeed there is a description from one Vildebeest pilot on the Endau raid of how a Ki 27 pulled up in front of him. For a moment, he thought, I could get him, on the other hand if I miss, I am a sitting duck. Discretion won the day and he headed for the nearest cloud, so failing to win the award for the last open cockpit fighter!

Vincents were used in 1940 against the Iraqis and against the Italians in East Africa. I am not aware they had any air to air opportunities!

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By: steve_p - 6th December 2005 at 14:34

Wasn’t the Vildebeeste/Vincent used against the Japanese? It had a forward firing gun so must have been a fighter. 🙂

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By: dhfan - 6th December 2005 at 14:32

According to Putnam, all Furys were withdrawn by 1939. As Webpilot said, Gauntlets were still in use for THUM flights well into the war years and 4 were still on charge for training in Nairobi, due to a shortage of Gladiators, in May 1943!

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By: WebPilot - 6th December 2005 at 14:20

At least one of the Met Flights used Gauntlets well into the war years, so that would be my best guess for the last operational open cockpit fighter type.

That’s not quite the same as being the last open cockpit type to equip a front line fighter squadron, though that was probably the Gauntlet as well….

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By: vildebeest - 6th December 2005 at 14:09

Gauntlet surely, the Gauntlet was still operational in the Middle East in 1940 and even made a claim, at that time weren’t all surviving Furys ground instructional frames with no wings?

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 6th December 2005 at 13:26

😉

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By: dhfan - 6th December 2005 at 13:24

not the Stringbag cos it was FAA –

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 6th December 2005 at 13:22

S’not a fighter though DHF issit, pay attention boy! 😀

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By: dhfan - 6th December 2005 at 13:19

Fighter I suspect you’re right with the Fury but.. you mentioned the Stringbag. The Duxford MKIII is painted as one of a few that served with the RAF.

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 6th December 2005 at 13:13

Thanks Ant – the question threw me- the usual one is what was the last RAF biplane fighter and thats an easy one!

Fury it is then….

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By: Ant.H - 6th December 2005 at 13:09

I think the RAF’s last open-cockpit fighter to enter service was the Gloster Gauntlet,although I think they were retired earlier than the Hawker Fury so the latter would’ve been the last in service.

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