November 8, 2005 at 10:59 pm
Anyone know what state the Personal Plane Services Fkker Eindecker is in these days or indeed of its whereabouts? just thinking that in a couple of years we are going to need a Dog Fighting Partner for the BE2!
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 14th November 2005 at 16:48
Recent issue of “Air Classics” has a good illustrated feature on an EIII repro that has flown recently in California.
Built from a set of original plans which found their way to the USA after the Armistice.
and quite a lot of measurements taken from the one in the Science museum if I am not mistaken.
It is quite a long way up on their cherry picker!
By: G-ORDY - 14th November 2005 at 13:19
Fokker EIII repro in USA
Recent issue of “Air Classics” has a good illustrated feature on an EIII repro that has flown recently in California.
Built from a set of original plans which found their way to the USA after the Armistice.
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 13th November 2005 at 23:37
[QUOTE=Propstrike]I understand that the replica was scaled from an example in a museum in Berlin, and it was only after a few years that somebody noticed that the fuselage was rather too long. It was later modified, and lost a couple of feet.
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The only surviving EIII is in the Science Museum, not Berlin. There is a good drawing in a 1916 magazine that has all the principle dimensions but if you make a fuselage to those and then lob on a pair of Tiger wings it is almost certainly going to bark! Fuselage length is a known factor for original wings, not for a lash up like this one is.
By: The Blue Max - 11th November 2005 at 20:58
I always thought that a bit odd, as surely the Eindekker ould have been outclassed by the SE5 at that point, but I guess they needed another, slightly different, WW1 fighter to make up the numbers.
Incidentally, does anyone know the IDs of the planes used in that movie? (Might be a thread on its own!)
Certainly Roy Leggs Jungmister G-AXIH was used as a German Machine, the eindecker and a Vima were also used with some tiger moths thrown in for good measure.
By: The Blue Max - 11th November 2005 at 19:45
Bod, you cant have ANOTHER WW1 aeroplane!
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But why not/ go on please, please!!!
Yep seen that GASML, DVII eeeeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmmm!!
By: GASML - 11th November 2005 at 18:57
In case you haven’t already taken a look Blue Max, more Fokker …..er stuff for you!
By: DazDaMan - 11th November 2005 at 13:48
Should have seen that coming! :rolleyes:
By: GASML - 11th November 2005 at 13:43
I’d second that – a Luton Minor…
Actually a Luton Meinherr!
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 11th November 2005 at 12:07
Oh God. not again…..!
Bod, you cant have ANOTHER WW1 aeroplane!
TT
By: Arm Waver - 11th November 2005 at 11:58
I’d second that – a Luton Minor…
By: Mike Smart - 11th November 2005 at 11:42
It looks like a Luton Minor to me?
Mike
By: DazDaMan - 11th November 2005 at 11:34
What the hell is it?? :confused:
I can imagine the budget wouldn’t be huge, but I guess you’re right in that it was simply available and cheap.
By: GASML - 11th November 2005 at 11:14
I always thought that a bit odd, as surely the Eindekker ould have been outclassed by the SE5 at that point, but I guess they needed another, slightly different, WW1 fighter to make up the numbers.
Given the proudction budget of that movie, I guess it was more to do with the fact that it was available, had crosses on it and was cheap!
If you don’t believe how tight they were, check out the other German ‘monoplane fighter’ that made an appearance at Booker at about the same time!! (It’s one of Propstrike’s pics, maybe he can tell us the fuller story!)
By: Mike Smart - 11th November 2005 at 10:58
Propstrike,
Not all, but I used to spend a lot of time there. Incidentally, that Spandau gun looks a bit short to me?
Mike
By: DazDaMan - 11th November 2005 at 08:29
Was it in the BBC production ‘Wings’?
It WAS in Aces High, painted red I think, skirmishing with SE5a s ( alright, Stampes)
I always thought that a bit odd, as surely the Eindekker ould have been outclassed by the SE5 at that point, but I guess they needed another, slightly different, WW1 fighter to make up the numbers.
Incidentally, does anyone know the IDs of the planes used in that movie? (Might be a thread on its own!)
By: The Blue Max - 11th November 2005 at 08:16
This is indeed the A/C in question, it was indeed used by the BBC for some flying schenes for “Wings” Tha majority of the flying however was carried out by R/C models.
By: Propstrike - 10th November 2005 at 23:52
Was it in the BBC production ‘Wings’?
It WAS in Aces High, painted red I think, skirmishing with SE5a s ( alright, Stampes)
I understand that the replica was scaled from an example in a museum in Berlin, and it was only after a few years that somebody noticed that the fuselage was rather too long. It was later modified, and lost a couple of feet.
Mike- Are ALL your pictures taken at Dunstable Downs ?
By: Mike Smart - 10th November 2005 at 23:50
Pic taken in 1967, which is I believe the aircraft you are discussing.
Mike
By: LAHARVE - 10th November 2005 at 23:42
Pic taken 1th June 1994 at Wroughton.
Is this the aircraft mentioned?
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 10th November 2005 at 22:07
At the CAA Display Authorisation seminar today, Jonathan Whalley said the VNE on the Fokker was 65 knots!