October 22, 2005 at 1:57 pm
doesnt smell like completely original, but it’s surely an interesting item, the price is absolutely insane though..
Alex
By: one0nine - 24th October 2005 at 20:54
The whole thing is fabricated, perhaps some OEM equipment bolted in, but there is no way a’tall that this is an authentic Messerschmitt cockpit. No way, no how.
Here’s what a REAL 109F cockpit looks like, from my site:

“Messerschmitt AG” stamps on the metal, eh? *stifles a chuckle*
Lynn
By: Skyraider3D - 24th October 2005 at 18:21
E/F models didn’t have canon breeches now did they 😉
Panel looks like a fake to me…
By: Tony Norman - 23rd October 2005 at 14:58
looks to me like someones simpit
By: Rocketeer - 23rd October 2005 at 02:04
If you need any help regarding the original panel/instruments just send me a mail. 🙂
Regards,
Herbert
Yes please Herbert! I have sent an email
regards
Tony
By: Puukka - 22nd October 2005 at 22:55
to me that actually looks like an Emil or similar..
Alex
It is a Franz but there also should be a lot more of holes and instruments/switches around. Who would fill the necessary holes during a restauration? Also the shape of the panels doesn´t look exactly like the original one. Beside the moderate instrumentation is faulty. There should be at least the Fl 23334 Fuehrertochterkompass at the place of the FK38 Kompass, like the Emil had.
Here´s a nice picture showing he manufacture of F panels. Interestingly the Fuehrertochterkompass had been censored 😀
Regards,
Herbert
By: Puukka - 22nd October 2005 at 22:48
I will create a similar looking thing for CockpitFest 2007ish! But I will try and do an Emil….still nice object, just not worth it IMHO
If you need any help regarding the original panel/instruments just send me a mail. 🙂
Regards,
Herbert
By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2005 at 22:40
to me that actually looks like an Emil or similar..
Alex
Not with the seperate basic 4 panel.
Just noticed that even paying that much you dont get the chute!
By: italian harvard - 22nd October 2005 at 22:38
to me that actually looks like an Emil or similar..
Alex
By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2005 at 22:37
Well, I can tell from the pictures that the instrument panel is a repro, and the sidewalls seem to be too. The gunsight, control grip and some of the instruments seem to be original….you can get that stuff for about EUR 2500,-that´s it 🙁
Herbert
I will create a similar looking thing for CockpitFest 2007ish! But I will try and do an Emil….still nice object, just not worth it IMHO
By: Mark12 - 22nd October 2005 at 19:47
We are offering for sale the actual “flying office” or cockpit from a World War Two German Messerchmitt Series F fighter aircraft. This totally original cockpit is complete and includes all the features to be expected from the pilot’s seat forward e.g. armored windshield, etc. We stress that the cockpit has not been restored or altered but is in its factory state. The machine gun and cannon ammunition counters with the reflective gunsight are also included in the instrument display. Maintenance records accompanying the cockpit indicate that it was assembled in Austria at the Weiner Neustadter-Flugzeugwerke G.m.b.H.
To the best of our research this cockpit section was the property of the Canadian Research Council, released for sale by Crown Assets. In examining the structure there is a Messerschmitt AG stamp on the inside skin of one of the aluminum panels. All the gauges and instruments panels etc. are correctly stamped and marked.
Dream on. :rolleyes:
Mark
By: Puukka - 22nd October 2005 at 19:40
Well, I can tell from the pictures that the instrument panel is a repro, and the sidewalls seem to be too. The gunsight, control grip and some of the instruments seem to be original….you can get that stuff for about EUR 2500,-that´s it 🙁
Herbert
By: Dave T - 22nd October 2005 at 19:22
It all looks clinically clean to me…. no wiring, brackets etc.
(Just the sort of thing somebody made themselves ?)
But i’ve ‘asked seller a question’ to provide some more photo’s especially exterior shots, which i’ll post here ~if~ he responds.
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By: Rocketeer - 22nd October 2005 at 19:19
Seems to me as an E type cockpit and not F type as writen in the text.
Best regards,
Mathieu
Neither! Panel is wrong for E. As are the pedals. Looks all too new for me. Throttle lever….and pedal bar….well…..chap should have put up some more pix.
By: Sonderman - 22nd October 2005 at 17:26
Seems to me as an E type cockpit and not F type as writen in the text.
Best regards,
Mathieu
By: trumper - 22nd October 2005 at 14:50
MMMM,now to plug in Forgotten Battles ,joystick ,computer and monitor ,unless anyone has a spare engine and airframe i can have. 😀
By: Stieglitz - 22nd October 2005 at 14:07
Is this what you want for an early christmaspresent Alex?
The question is: How many forummembers are going to run to the bank to check their account? :rolleyes: It looks great, but as you said, it is doubtfull that this cocpit is fully authentical ass stated in the add.
I wonder if he is going to sell this.
Stieglitz