October 18, 2005 at 2:50 pm
I noticed that not much had been said on this site, though a few comments have been made on the photography threads.
All in all I thought it was a very good airshow, possibly one of the best Autumn airshows I’ve seen, though I am influenced by the fact that due to one disaster after another this year, it’s the only airshow that I’ve seen.
I have to mention the pathetic performance by the USAF, I was listening to the KC-135 pilot on someone’s airband radio and got the distinct impression that they were uncomfortable with the conditions, funny how that should affect the location seeking facilities of one of the worlds most advanced fighters, didn’t seem to bother the BBMF pilot flying in the spitfire a couple of hours earlier. I presume that they were a little unsure as to the height of the pet cemetery chimneys.
The attitude of some of the photographers on the tank bank got my back up, Ok, I did not expect to be able to stretch out in my new chair and happily survey the view, but I had my trusty old video camera and was choosing my shots with care, I did not have a mile long white telephoto lens, this seemed to be the passport to push, shove and stand in front of me at every opportunity, the particular fat little turd who was doing this, amongst others, fortunately caught my eye before the lens was shoved up his backside, I hope that non of these people associate themselves with this forum. I was aware of a few caustic comments about the freeloaders on the hill opposite, but at least they get a comfortable view, perhaps next time I’ll pay to go in, see the sights then retire to the other side where I won’t have the pleasure of seeing the sad old boy teetering on his stepladder right on the fence line !
The other thing that amazes me is the flood of people trying to get out before the end. There I am with 7 spitfires and a hurricane revving up right in front of me, the only place in the world where you can see this and the buggers are hurrying back to their cars, I turned round and saw that a qeue of cars had already formed to get out. Considering the cost of getting a family into the airshow, they should have joined up with the USAF and not bothered going.
It was very pleasant at the end to stand next to the Classic Flight enclosure and watch the re-action from people prior to and following their Dragon Rapid/Tiger Moth trips, then I walked through the traffic jam, got in the car and went straight out via the Royston exit, doubling back to Duxford village after the pet cemetery.
Well, that sums me up as a Grumpy old git doesn’t it, looking forward to the melee next year.
Forgot, whats the story about the NASA WB-57 landing at Mildenhall, is it still there? Congratulations to the tank boys for giving rides in the APC’s, were these guests or members of the public?
By: TEEJ - 22nd October 2005 at 21:05
Regarding the MB-57
Cheers for that Moggy, but do you or anyone else for that matter know the departure time, why is it here, does it fly during the day and is it parked up near the EC-135’s, I’m working at home for the next couple of days so a little drive up the road is a distinct possibility, the last time I saw a B-57 was probably about 40 years ago.
Has the NASA presence got anything to do with the fact that there is an astronaut and cosmonaut lecture tour of the UK at the moment, one of the cosmonauts, and I’m led to believe that it’s Leonov, the first man to walk in space, is giving a lecture to my stepson’s year at Tabor High School, Braintree at the end of the month, followed by a parents talk in the evening, can’t wait, doubt wether I dare wear my Soviet pilots dress cap though, what will it be worth on E-Bay if I get it autographed.
Will the MB-57 come back for Leg-Ends.
Link to why the WB-57 is in the UK:
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=144&article=32427
“EC-135s” ? Do you mean RC-135s. The EC-135 went way back in 1998!
By: Moggy C - 20th October 2005 at 15:02
Regarding the MB-57
Cheers for that Moggy, but do you or anyone else for that matter know the departure time
Not as yet, but I’m monitoring the spotters site for info. I’ll let you know if anything is circulated
Moggy
By: Pete Truman - 19th October 2005 at 18:25
Unfortunately I couldn’t make it to the last show of the year. Even if I had, I seldom get down to the tank bank for many of the reasons you outline.
I believe the WB-57 is due to depart Mildenhall (which it is currently sharing with a couple of F18s) this coming Saturday – 22nd October.
if I recall correctly, the USAF presence at the last Farnborough executed a spiffing display – over Blackbushe. I may be wrong but I think it might have been a B2 that staged all the way from the US and went back home only ever having been seen in the distance.
Moggy
Regarding the MB-57
Cheers for that Moggy, but do you or anyone else for that matter know the departure time, why is it here, does it fly during the day and is it parked up near the EC-135’s, I’m working at home for the next couple of days so a little drive up the road is a distinct possibility, the last time I saw a B-57 was probably about 40 years ago.
Has the NASA presence got anything to do with the fact that there is an astronaut and cosmonaut lecture tour of the UK at the moment, one of the cosmonauts, and I’m led to believe that it’s Leonov, the first man to walk in space, is giving a lecture to my stepson’s year at Tabor High School, Braintree at the end of the month, followed by a parents talk in the evening, can’t wait, doubt wether I dare wear my Soviet pilots dress cap though, what will it be worth on E-Bay if I get it autographed.
Will the MB-57 come back for Leg-Ends.
By: AFH10 - 19th October 2005 at 10:26
The attitude of some of the photographers on the tank bank got my back up, Ok, I did not expect to be able to stretch out in my new chair and happily survey the view, but I had my trusty old video camera and was choosing my shots with care, I did not have a mile long white telephoto lens, this seemed to be the passport to push, shove and stand in front of me at every opportunity, the particular fat little turd who was doing this, amongst others, fortunately caught my eye before the lens was shoved up his backside,
Well said, seems to me that some people will do anything to get an unobstructed view. My pet hate is the people who set up windbreaks 10 feet long right on the crowd line to deter others from standing near them, or step ladders right at the front. After paying for the family to get in its a bit annoying to have to move around reguarly so a five year old can see after yet another step ladder arrives in front.
Bl**dy good show though!
By: multivac - 18th October 2005 at 22:42
I rather enjoyed this show; what with it being a mini-legends towards the end. I decided to video and felt I needed a “Second Unit” for the missed footage.
As with most Duxford displays flying was restricted to the afternoon and only for a short time at that. Why can’t they use some of the morning for displays? Say for the non-landing acts?
USAF – shall we have a whip-round for a GPS and a map? Surprised the KC-135 didn’t get a “ticket” from the safety committee for over flying the crowd, but at least they found Duxford. What happened to the F-15s I thought they were to make another appearance?
Aerostars- great team. Guess the one early departure to North Weald was to line up the beers in The Squadron. :diablo:
Matadors – gasps from the crowd all around me for some of the manoeuvres.
What happened to the meteor? I was looking forward to that.
Shame people seem to leave early, in fact before even the final act had finished. They missed the fly past of the photoship T-6, Spitfire and Hurricane.
As most of the action seemed to taking place near Hanger One did the Tank-Bank relocate to the other end?
By: trumper - 18th October 2005 at 20:04
LOL,the Yanks were awsome,well they were awesome over Essex LOL :diablo:
The aerostars were very good,we had seen them at Gransden last year and thought they were good there,maybe Duxford was’nt as intimate as Gransden but well done to them.
We wondered whether the wind was a problem as a few of the planes seemed to come in from behind the crowdline to crab into landing positions.
Those landings would’ve looked wonderful apart from those highly photogenic speakers on posts that seem to be placed strategically to block a nice photo,but hey we didn’t come to see the planes did we :confused:
By: oag - 18th October 2005 at 20:04
My story was better though :rolleyes:
Moggy
😀 😀
fair shout matey
By: 92fis - 18th October 2005 at 19:52
One of the best shows i have been too at Duxford in quite a while, The Matadors are awesome and the spitfires were good too. Still loads of room for improvement though.
By: Moggy C - 18th October 2005 at 18:40
Moggy
’twas a B52 operating all the way from Fairford
My story was better though :rolleyes:
Moggy
By: Alan T - 18th October 2005 at 18:34
This was the best air show I have been to for a long while, thoroughly enjoyed the whole experience (although spent more than I should have at the various stalls – too tempting). Highlights of the day for me – being invited ‘over the barrier’ to climb up & have a look inside the Beafighter, and talk by Clive Denney & Charlie Brown in Hangar 4 on their Merlins over Malta experience – very entertaining.
Of the show itself, agree the USAF put up a poor showing, but compensated by the rest of the bill (although would have liked to have seen the Meteor – what happened to it?). The red bull Matadors gave a superb display, as did the Aerostars, and (from the fence at the ‘Tank Bank’ end) seeing the seven Spits lined up for take off, engines at full chat, was awesome and a fitting finale.
Roll on next year!
Alan T
By: DocStirling - 18th October 2005 at 18:27
I enjoyed the airshow immensely. It was only spoilt by the fact that I was apparently some kind of magnet to 8 year old boys, who constantly pushed infront of me, shouting ‘Spitfire Spitfire….ack ack ack ack ack ack ack’ every time they saw something with a propellor.
I think I’ll risk the tank bank next time – at least they know what they are photographing 😮
DS
By: oag - 18th October 2005 at 18:20
Unfortunately I couldn’t make it to the last show of the year. Even if I had, I seldom get down to the tank bank for many of the reasons you outline.
I believe the WB-57 is due to depart Mildenhall (which it is currently sharing with a couple of F18s) this coming Saturday – 22nd October.
if I recall correctly, the USAF presence at the last Farnborough executed a spiffing display – over Blackbushe. I may be wrong but I think it might have been a B2 that staged all the way from the US and went back home only ever having been seen in the distance.
Moggy
Moggy
’twas a B52 operating all the way from Fairford
By: Moggy C - 18th October 2005 at 17:01
Unfortunately I couldn’t make it to the last show of the year. Even if I had, I seldom get down to the tank bank for many of the reasons you outline.
I believe the WB-57 is due to depart Mildenhall (which it is currently sharing with a couple of F18s) this coming Saturday – 22nd October.
if I recall correctly, the USAF presence at the last Farnborough executed a spiffing display – over Blackbushe. I may be wrong but I think it might have been a B2 that staged all the way from the US and went back home only ever having been seen in the distance.
Moggy
By: Rlangham - 18th October 2005 at 16:18
Understand what you mean about the photographers, happened to me at Bruntingthorpe on 28th August many times and ruined the day for me, because im a teenager it must mean they have some divine right over me