Oxfords and Magisters

Cees we have the remains of approx 3 Oxfords. I recently did an Oxford panel on the instrument panel thread

Isn’t there one in France?

I’ve heard that the one in South America was in Argentina, but I could be wrong.

Duxford’s Oxford 1 under restoration, taken today.
mmitch.

here are the couple of oxfords I said I would post together with a Consul.

Glyn

1 AS.40 Oxford 1 G-AIVY
2 As.10 Oxford 1 PH261 coded EV/901 of the Royal Navy
3 AS.65 Consul TJ-AAY

Oxfords and Magisters

The Irish Air Corps restored Magister 34 delivered pre war at present in the Air Corps Museum but due to go to the Nation Museum in Dublin. It has been suggested that it be displayed less the wheel spats.
Tony K

Magisters

A favourite subject too!

My Magister is now N3788 not V1075. It was rebuilt after a crash in the fifties using the fuselage tailplane fin and rudder of 1938-built N3788 but kept its G-AKPF/ V1075 identity ( 6th from last off the line) purely because it had a CofA and the ‘donor’ didnt.

The machine in the Berkshire museum is a poor replica using a few original bits.

THe Duxford machine is a Maggie in all but name but the Hawk is virtually a tandem open cockpit version of my Falcon, with gorgeous wheel trousers and swept fin and rudder.MMMmmm!!

The Maggie was the result of a request for a heavy duty Hawk, with a set of requirements that included larger cockpits to allow for parachute-equipped occupants, blind flying hood over the rear hole etc.

More than 1200 were built.

Three fly here in the UK, there is another one in Brazil that was airworthy at least until recently and offered for sale.

THe ex-Strathallan machine is still owned by Sir Willy Roberts who doesnt really want to part with it judging by the amount of money asked. It may actualy have a current permit.

That potentially makes 5 fliers worldwide ( although to be absolutely precise the Shuttleworth machine is currently in a thousand bits undergoing a major inspection of the wooden structure).

Mine is probably the best of the survivors. It is a fabulous aircraft and very easy to fly.

Come and see it at Old Warden in 06.

Check out the dates of our shows at –

www.Shuttleworth.org

Join the SVAS and get in for half price.

THere have been plenty of photos of our 2 Maggies posted on this Forum by our gifted toggies.

All the best

Hairyplane

Many of you Oxford fans will find this post I made on my RNZAF forum of interest

http://rnzaf.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=Wartime&action=display&thread=1128490330

Maggies also at

Irish Air Force museum
Strathallan

SAAF Museum restoring Oxford ex Consul from AST(?) in UK swapped by RAFM for a Ventura that’s rarely seen daylight since it’s arrival in the UK

What happened to the eight or so Oxford wrecks that were found in Canada as reported in FlyPast? They were far gone but could provide some sections to make one or two complete examples. We have the tailwheel-assembly of an Oxford in the museum which was used for instruction and some parts have been cut away,

Cheers

Cees

Didn’t Mark Evans, Midland Warplane Museum import one(or two) of these a few years ago? I recall the intention was to rebuild one and offer the other.

Just looked at W & R (p.216) which refers to only one at Baxterley (“off-site”) and says it may be DH-built AT601.

Roger Smith.

I wonder if any Turkish Oxfords survived?

If two Spitfires can “turn up on a farm” there could be no end to the treasures to be found ….. :diablo:

What happened to the eight or so Oxford wrecks that were found in Canada as reported in FlyPast? They were far gone but could provide some sections to make one or two complete examples. We have the tailwheel-assembly of an Oxford in the museum which was used for instruction and some parts have been cut away,

Cheers

Cees

What nostalgia. My first ever flight was sat on the main spa of an Oxford V3404 at Marham on 14th July 1953. Observer parachute harness on and chute thrown into the back of the cabin. There were only two seats, the pilot insisted on having one and I was the smallest of the three cadets on the flight! The other cadet sharing the main spa with me managed to pick up his chute by the shiny sliver handle as we vacated the aircraft- engines still running- and deployed his chute rapidly down stream. HE was popular.

As for the Magister I practised prop swinging on one with cut off wings at Halton as a Brat. That would be in 1957 I think.

I have one or two pictures of Oxfords that I will look out and post.

Glyn

As for NZ, there’s a Magister (or is it a Hawk?) in Motat, Auckland.

There’s an Oxford with the Subritzky’s;

A Consul-to-Oxford conversion being rebuilt at at RNZAF Museum

And the remains of an Oxford recently changed hands via Trademe.co.nz it seems

Plus some remains of RNZAF examples are in the Taranaki Museum and with a group in Australia.

None of the are airworthy nor likely to ever be. However a replica is being built to fly by the Subritzky’s which will be cool.

There’s a Singapore Airways Consul being rebuilt to fly at Mandeville too, but this project has stalled.

Good choice, the Magister is very nice – you may want to contact Hairyplane on this forum, he owns one! Off the top of my head, there are three airworthy Maggies;

V1075 – Hairyplanes, at the Shuttleworth Collection (yellow with wheel fairings)

P6382 – Shuttleworth Collections own (earth/green over yellow without wheel fairings)

T9378 – Real Aircraft Company’s, at Breighton (Same as hairyplanes)

As for static, there are;

L6906 at the Museum of Berkshire Aviation, this is is in yellow with wheel fairings, but i believe the wings are removed

T9707 (not real identity) at the Museum of Army Flying, same colours as the Shuttleworth one, and without wheel fairings

As for Oxfords, only three are around in the UK;

MP425 – RAF Museum, Hendon

V3388 – IWM Duxford

There are also the remains of one at Solent Sky, Southampton

Thats just the ones in the UK by the way, may be more elsewhere

Edit – if your interested in Magisters, you’ll probably like the civilian version, the Miles Hawk. Heres a UK Survivor listing for them;

G-ADWT – Hawk Major, airworthy, Newbury Aeroplane Company, Berkshire

G-AFBS – Hawk trainer, IWM Duxford (painted in RAF colours)

Cheers, Rob