The sight of the Storch and Me108 at OW last weekend made me want to ask a few questions.
Who’s is that storch, and when did it take to the scene?
Is it an original or a french one? I’m used to seeing the radial engined one that flies out of duxford but i take it this is a different aircraft?
And the same questions about the 108, although the one i saw at Duxford didnt have a radial engine either (of course)
And do they have anything to do with the guy with the Bestmann and all the other German warbirds recently put on the register
and whats going on with them?
And the Breighton Buchon
Basically tell me all about flying and restoration project luftwaffe aircraft in the UK…I’m sure you know more than i do. I have always wanted to see more german (and non-anglo-american) aircraft on the scene.
Jay
Jay
By: DazDaMan - 17th August 2005 at 08:15
Snapper-wasnt meant as a snipe, except in the freindliest possible way…
Taifun-I must have had your example at Chailey confused with the project at Duxford, my apologies. I am a fan of the Bf108, it just catches my attention, I’m not sure why, maybe it is just a very nice looking aircraft, and extremely important in the development of both fighters and light aircraft.
And congratulations, and a tiny hint of jealousy… 😉
BTW I know it doesnt have a radial engine. Is the tinted canopy on the new zealand example original or a more recent addition?
Jay
I think it’s been doctored slightly to look a bit more like a Bf109 – you’ll notice the canopy doesn’t have as much framing as the normal ‘108 canopy, and also the windscreen is very different!
By: DJ Jay - 17th August 2005 at 04:24
Snapper-wasnt meant as a snipe, except in the freindliest possible way…
Taifun-I must have had your example at Chailey confused with the project at Duxford, my apologies. I am a fan of the Bf108, it just catches my attention, I’m not sure why, maybe it is just a very nice looking aircraft, and extremely important in the development of both fighters and light aircraft.
And congratulations, and a tiny hint of jealousy… 😉
BTW I know it doesnt have a radial engine. Is the tinted canopy on the new zealand example original or a more recent addition?
Jay
By: Snapper - 16th August 2005 at 22:59
“No-one want to show off their knowledge and connections?”
That’s a surefire way to lose the connections that give you the knowledge.
By: DazDaMan - 16th August 2005 at 17:58
Gotta love that ‘108/Nord in New Zealand – with its butane guns! :p
(Philip Treweek/Kiwi Aircraft Images)
By: Taifun - 16th August 2005 at 13:41
Hi guys,
Thanks DJ Jay, pleased you liked the display. The Nord / 108 G-ETME is based at White Waltham and has a Lycoming engine instead of the Argus (original 108) or Renault (original Nord).
As far as I know there is one more flyer (based at Booker), and then 3 more projects. One at Duxford, one at North Weald and one at Fairoaks.
We were at Chailey last year, but marked as KG+EM.
Regards
Taifun
By: JDK - 16th August 2005 at 13:38
Would you like my RLM Aircraft Serial Number stamp Mike? Only one careful Nazi owner, 18 warbird owners. 😉
By: Ant.H - 16th August 2005 at 13:11
“Haven’t Shuttleworth recently acquired a Bucker Jungmann (on static at FL?)
Roger Smith.”
Yep,she’s painted in an overall grey Luftwaffe scheme and was put through her paces at the VJ Day show at OW.
“(for a ‘108, which I think this one is?).Daz”
As I understand it,’ME has an official build date of 1951 and is registered as a Nord. However,the majority of airframe parts have German part numbers stamped on them,so it’s likely the aircraft was either built up from a stock of 108 spares or is perhaps even a reconditioned and relabelled wartime example. So I suppose what you call it is up to you. 🙂
By: RPSmith - 16th August 2005 at 10:56
Haven’t Shuttleworth recently acquired a Bucker Jungmann (on static at FL?)
Roger Smith.
By: DazDaMan - 16th August 2005 at 08:39
The ‘108 is operated by the 108 Group, I think. One of their number is a poster here.
The Storch is a 3/4 (or thereabouts) Slepcev Storch, and I believe it is currently for sale.
The RACo Buchon was, I believe, having some brake work done, and its first flight is still patiently awaited.
Not sure about this ‘108 you mention with a red rudder (Yellow 10). Someone, possibly Glenn Lacey, has a 208, which is a development of the ‘108 but with a tricycle undercarriage rather than a tailwheel.
The ‘108 G-ETME, incidentally, does NOT have a radial engine – it has a Lycoming in place of its usual Renault (for a Nord) or Argus (for a ‘108, which I think this one is?).
By: Yak 11 Fan - 16th August 2005 at 08:28
Nothing was wrong with the HAC Storch, it displayed at Woodchurch that weekend
By: DJ Jay - 15th August 2005 at 19:27
No-one want to show off their knowledge and connections?
I been searching everywhere, a lot on the civil register but nearly nothing flying…
Jay
By: DJ Jay - 15th August 2005 at 02:29
Cheers dude. The storch was very convincing, but one wonders what was wrong with the (nearly) real one we have flying. I liked that 108, very spirited display,nice aircraft, but i take it different from the one with the red rudder marked “yellow 10” i have seen knocking about in the static park at (iirc) Chailey last year and Duxford?
I had assumed that all three aircraft had come from the same operator.
You can ignore the Buchon question, it has been debated so many times…
Jay
By: Napier Sabre - 15th August 2005 at 00:12
Jay,
The Storch is a replica. The 108 is operated by a seperate group infact all 3 aircraft operated by different people. I have to admit when i first saw the Storch i though it was real! The Bestmann is owned by Glenn Lacey. The Buchon Ill leave to are Breighton experts.
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