July 20, 2005 at 10:36 am
Am I the only one who thinks that the mods are going over the top a bit in locking threads?
The latest one is the Typhoon at RIAT thread – By all means keep an eye on things but why stop some interesting discussion on an incdent that has already happened?
Is this is supposed to be an OPEN forum – Or the play thing of a chosen few…
Nige
PS. ‘Bet this gets locked… :rolleyes:
By: dmchadderton - 20th July 2005 at 21:55
… issue is still being discussed (by professionals) on pprune,
Now that WILL be a first !! :diablo:
… speculation on there is, at least, from more ‘informed’ sources.
… or at least those who think they are more informed.
By: Moggy C - 20th July 2005 at 21:40
I think this new thread should simply “lock itself” by mutual consent of us all.
Mark Pilkington
Say the word 😉
Moggy
Moderator
By: mark_pilkington - 20th July 2005 at 21:38
Italian Harvard and Papa Lima – A”MEN TO THAT 😉
The Typhoon entered the site as some astonishing airshow photography, I made the mistake of using it to argue an opinion of concern about the rising costs of insurances, dwindling airshow attendances and rising costs, and I am sorry I did that in such a way that many others took offence at both the strong wording, the conclusions I drew, or the slur it appeared to put on the pilot of that particular Typhoon incident prior to the review and issue of a formal incident report.
I was considered wrong to do that, I CERTAINLY WAS WRONG to do that here, and it appears PPRUNE is exploring all of the issues I raised in anycase, and that debate will rage on until that incident report is issued.
I dont particularly enjoy modern jets, thats why I come here at least 2 times a day to read with interest what is happening with the “REAL” aeroplanes, and our aviation heritage – I will let my grandkids worry about who is restoring and operating an historic Typhoon.
Lets not re-birth a “locked thread” by stealth, and move on.
So YES, lets get back to the “old aeroplanes” please where hopefully we all do have common interests and is the reason we all meet here in some form of common good.
I think this new thread should simply “lock itself” by mutual consent of us all.
regards
Mark Pilkington
By: Papa Lima - 20th July 2005 at 20:33
True enough, italian harvard, surely the Typhoon at RIAT is about as modern a military aircraft as it could be, i.e. there’s another Forum tailor-made for it.
By: italian harvard - 20th July 2005 at 20:13
er… maybe it had nothing to do with historic aviation? 😉
Alex
By: mark_pilkington - 20th July 2005 at 15:16
As a “Mark” that did get grilled about voicing an opinion that I agreed was simply that, I fully support the right of the hosts of this site to cool off debates when they become pointless and endless, or alternatively are at risk of entering the site into litigation. – It is their site.
I sought to end my involvement in that thread as pointless, and welcomed the actions of the Mods, interestingly that thread is now “rebirthing” itself here.
I dont intend to repeat or endlessly defend those same opinions here either, or bite on the hooks being dangled by some, to re-enter the same worthless debate.
My open invitation to take this into PM in the other thread was not taken up by anyone, it still stands if thats whats needed to let people vent it out of their system.
But I will not waste further time or screen space of other more important topics on debating that issue in the other thread or this one, – end of story.
regards
Mark Pilkington
By: *Zwitter* - 20th July 2005 at 13:13
Am I the only one who thinks that the mods are going over the top a bit in locking threads?
The latest one is the Typhoon at RIAT thread – By all means keep an eye on things but why stop some interesting discussion on an incdent that has already happened?
Is this is supposed to be an OPEN forum – Or the play thing of a chosen few…
Nige
PS. ‘Bet this gets locked… :rolleyes:
The Typhoon issue is still being discussed (by professionals) on pprune, speculation on there is, at least, from more ‘informed’ sources.
By: Auster Fan - 20th July 2005 at 13:06
AF – how dare you describe me as being ‘eloquent’. I have a reputation to maintain dear chap… 😉
Nige – apologies, I didn’t mean to sound harsh. It’s just that things have been a bit strained around here of late, and so I figured it might be best if we let everything simmer down a bit.
My dear old thing – frightfully sorry for the slur!
There has been a noticeable lack of a certain “Mark” (ie not V or 12) recently. Maybe the strain will ease a bit as a consequence……….?
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th July 2005 at 12:59
AF – how dare you describe me as being ‘eloquent’. I have a reputation to maintain dear chap… 😉
Nige – apologies, I didn’t mean to sound harsh. It’s just that things have been a bit strained around here of late, and so I figured it might be best if we let everything simmer down a bit.
By: Auster Fan - 20th July 2005 at 12:51
Nige – this is not directed at you, but a general observation. As a rule, I think the Mods do a pretty good job and sometimes have difficult decisions to make when deciding whether to delete posts, lock threads etc. It seems to me that often those who make the criticisms have no intention of becoming Mods themselves for whatever reason. I think also that Steve Young has put the point very eloquently.
By: Nige - 20th July 2005 at 11:29
Example – I might turn round and say that I think the Typhoon pilot got it wrong, which would be nothing more than a personal opinion, but any board of enquiry would have access to all the facts and may well come out with a different conclusion. Consequently, our hosts find themselves displaying a comment from me which is cointradictory to the official line, and which could then be taken a) out of context, and b) as libellous (or slanderous, can’t remember which), leaving Key Publishing Ltd in a very sticky situation.
I couldn’t agree more, but nothing had actually been said…
By locking contentious threads, the Mods are actually working to safeguard the continued existence of the forum.
I couldn’t see anything contentious in it – Indeed I was about to add some interesting info regarding the incident which may well have killed any more speculation…
And if I’m being totally candid, saying that you bet this thread gets locked is really a bit of a red rag to a bull…
I was joking…
Nige
By: Papa Lima - 20th July 2005 at 11:16
Hear Hear!
By: Swiss Mustangs - 20th July 2005 at 10:49
I’m sure we’re all a bit sick of some of the garbage that’s been going on here in recent weeks…
I concur !
Martin
By: taylorman - 20th July 2005 at 10:46
Nice said steve 😉
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th July 2005 at 10:44
Nige, I’m pretty sure that it’s a question which many of us have pondered, but ultimately we have to remember that our comments are hosted on a forum which is provided (free to users, I might add) by a commercial organisation who are ultimately held responsible for comments made here.
Example – I might turn round and say that I think the Typhoon pilot got it wrong, which would be nothing more than a personal opinion, but any board of enquiry would have access to all the facts and may well come out with a different conclusion. Consequently, our hosts find themselves displaying a comment from me which is cointradictory to the official line, and which could then be taken a) out of context, and b) as libellous (or slanderous, can’t remember which), leaving Key Publishing Ltd in a very sticky situation.
By locking contentious threads, the Mods are actually working to safeguard the continued existence of the forum. And if I’m being totally candid, saying that you bet this thread gets locked is really a bit of a red rag to a bull…
Let’s just get on with the historic stuff and let the forum calm down a bit, eh? I’m sure we’re all a bit sick of some of the garbage that’s been going on here in recent weeks…
Just my 2p’s worth…