January 27, 2005 at 10:35 am
Hi.
New member Robin Here.
I’ve searched the forum and web for this with with no luck.
I would like help to ID an a/c I saw whilst out cycling in the Oswestry (Shropshire) area on Sunday (23rd Jan) at around 2 PM. Flying in a westerly direction, it was a large(ish) multi-engined biplane with a shorter lower span. It has at least two engines which i think are mounted between the wings. The cockpit being enclosed. I can’t recall if the tailplane was a box type. It’s altitude was high enough that i couldn’t make out any markings. The goundspeed appeared quite low but judging by the wind at ground level it may have been flying into a fair headwind.
I know this is a fairly hazy description but it was good to see something different and would like to ID it. Apart from the odd RAF FJ and Chinook we don’t see many interesting a/c around Oswestry.
Many thanks for reading my ramblings
Robin M.
By: mcfier - 8th February 2005 at 18:59
Patty,
Yes I’m fairly certain that’s what I saw,
Thank you
Rob.
By: Patty O'Doors - 8th February 2005 at 15:47
I think this is what you saw….
By: BlueRobin - 4th February 2005 at 16:23
My aforementioned Silver AN-2 LY-BIG lives outside at Tatenhill
By: proplover - 4th February 2005 at 16:06
Definatly not a Draggonfly – my monies are still on an AN-2 from……. somewhere!
By: Manonthefence - 3rd February 2005 at 10:44
Doesnt the dragonfly have pointed wings?
By: ALBERT ROSS - 30th January 2005 at 14:55
The Vimy isn’t in the UK anymore, is it? The largest I can think of would be a Rapide – how many other mulity-engined biplanes are there still flying?
RIGHT! Who said ghost?Flood
Perhaps Dragonfly G-AEDU up from Rendcomb? Definately has shorter lower wings. Any idea of colour? ‘DU is red with silver wings.
By: mcfier - 30th January 2005 at 13:25
After opbtaining a 3d computer model of an AN-2 I now agree that I saw an AN-2. From certain angles the engine cowling gives the impression of a rounded nose, which caused me believe the engines were wing mounted.
So many thanks to all who replied and helped me id this aircraft including the person who pm’ed me.
Robin
By: proplover - 30th January 2005 at 12:00
It was certainly white or silver and the engine note was a deep, deep rumble
By: mcfier - 29th January 2005 at 09:50
Thanks everyone, some interesting thoughts here. Definitley not a Shorts 330, that’s a type I could ID. I feel I ought to add that the a/c was quite close to my position, almost over head and fortunately made a turn, banking towards me which is what confirmed it as a biplane. Unfortunately its height was such that I couldn’t determine the number of engines, except to say that the nose appeared smoothly rounded and unlikely to be carrying the large radial engine of the AN-2, although the colour silver/alumimium matches the AN-2 described earlier. The sound was, in my opinion, a deep “old sounding” rumble. I was so enthralled at the sighting that I completely overlooked the configuration of the tail assembly.
Once again thanks to all for reading and taking the trouble to reply.
Robin.
By: EwenT - 28th January 2005 at 14:39
JohnC. – Yes, it did :confused: :confused: Sounded ‘orrible :diablo:
By: John C - 28th January 2005 at 12:57
Just seen a Shorts 330 out of Coventry and could possibly be mistaken for a biplane from a distance with that undercarriage and very deep wing strut. Did your sighting have twin fins?
And did it sound really horrible, like a constipated wasp on speed 🙂
JC
By: EwenT - 28th January 2005 at 12:52
BR – An2 has not been at Baxterley for some time.
mcfier – Just seen a Shorts 330 out of Coventry and could possibly be mistaken for a biplane from a distance with that undercarriage and very deep wing strut. Did your sighting have twin fins?
By: BlueRobin - 27th January 2005 at 23:46
I believe AN-2 LY-BIG is based at Baxterley nr Nuneaton. A possible. This is silver all over.
By: proplover - 27th January 2005 at 23:36
mcfier, I saw this aircraft too. I viewed it from Rednal after landing there for a visit. Two of us heard the heavy rumble of an aircraft to the North and spotted a large bi-plane travelling very slowly. Our belief was that it was single engined and that it was an AN-2. However we couldnt think where an AN-2 may of come from as Im not aware of any based locally (apart from the wrecks at Hawarden.
Anyone else get a look?
By: Old Fart - 27th January 2005 at 12:39
Could it have been the the Ireland based DH Dragon, thats bigger than the Rapide and has squared off wings.
By: Tbirdman - 27th January 2005 at 12:31
It was more than likely ‘sheep spotting’ being in that area.
Might it have been a Wellyngton?
:p
By: Flood - 27th January 2005 at 12:09
The Vimy isn’t in the UK anymore, is it? The largest I can think of would be a Rapide – how many other mulity-engined biplanes are there still flying?
RIGHT! Who said ghost?
Flood
By: mcfier - 27th January 2005 at 11:57
There’s always the possibility of a large scale model
That’s what I was thinking and the reason I threw in the thought about the HP42.
Definitely not AN-2, as I mentioned before there were two (or more) engines mounted between the wings and I could also see the large main undercarriage. This is pointing more towards a model/replica as Robbo suggested.
Thanks for all the replies.
Robin
By: John C - 27th January 2005 at 11:36
So what large twin engined biplanes are airworthy in the UK?
JC
By: mcfier - 27th January 2005 at 11:22
John C,
I knew it wasn’t a Rapide, there were no engine naclles on the lower wings and the wing tips were much more square.
Robin