December 15, 2004 at 4:32 am
Hi
I am getting lots of persistant emails and forum references to the Lincoln in the UK having been purchased by an Australian and being /soon to be exported down under (James put that Hairyoplane down!!!)
I guess this is one of the wierder propositions I have heard but after this year I think anything is possible – any of you Pommies know anything about this one – I dooo hope it’s true – it is sad it and the lanc bits have been neglected for so long.
Kindest regards
John P
By: setter - 19th December 2004 at 08:02
Hi Oscar
I think this sounds like a job for you – Is Archerfield long enough?
I could spend my retirement putting the damn thing together – sounds a bit like painting the Habour Bridge though.
Ron here are the photos a friend of mine, Tony Andrews took of Harold Thoma’s standard Mk30 nose a couple of weeks ago at Camden so at least it looks reasonable.
I believe the Maritime nose is up here near Brisbane now – it was being converted into a caravan but never made it. Apparently it isn’t too cut about but will require a fair bit of work.
There is also supposed to be one buried at Point Cook – anybody know about that one?
Regards
John Parker
By: oscar duck - 19th December 2004 at 07:00
Any Lincoln here would be welcome. There was a proposal to trade/buy one from Argentina and maybe ‘fly’ it here many moons ago….
Ron, pull some strings and get one here…
By: Ron Cuskelly - 19th December 2004 at 06:26
John
If indeed a long nose exists that is a very elegant solution.
Cheers
By: setter - 19th December 2004 at 06:09
Hi Ron
How about this as a compromise.
Restore it as a “short nose” and restore the “big nose” and display it along side – Best result all round.
Whilst rebuilding the Beaufort up here a few nose/cockpits have been restored so all is possible.
A Turret(top) for a Lincoln has also been restored – I thingk I know where it could go now……..
Regards
John P
By: Dave Homewood - 19th December 2004 at 06:04
There seems to be still substantial remains of this one that crashed, perhaps it might yield some parts
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/superbus.htm
It had the long nose too.
Did the Lincoln sound the same as a Lancaster? I note it’s Merlins look quite different in their installation so I wondered if they sounded different
By: Ron Cuskelly - 19th December 2004 at 05:48
Hi John and Dave
I’ve never really considered the long proboscis unattractive. Indeed, any human so blessed would probably claim it gives them character. So too with the MR31 Lincoln I feel. Given that the long nose was unique to Australia, I think it should get a guernsey if there is to be an Australian Lincoln. On the other hand, who am I to be so picky when a miracle is in the offing.
Cheers
By: setter - 19th December 2004 at 04:20
Hi Dave
Yes Specialised equipment …………People Mk1 Eyeball for the use of ………..
And yes there was some specialised Maritime reccon stuff there as well. The long nose was used for this work. 73 Lincs were built here and 20 were converted to this long nose version. A 6ft 6in plug was inserted to provide more room in the nose.
Regards
John P
By: Dave Homewood - 19th December 2004 at 03:47
Those photos are great Spiteful, but oh my gosh that long nose is ugly! I’d never seen one like that before, Why was it exyended? Did it house specialist equipment?
By: setter - 19th December 2004 at 03:27
Well
It all seems to be gathering pace – I hope all of this is true – now how do we get a Lanc for the Point Cook guys – Canada maybe ? – I once missed the Wallace Island one by a few months when the French got it Damn !
C5A seems a bit of an overkill – great but an overkill
So I suppose it is going to Point Cook – sounds like it
Mark12 Nice shot – which one were you flying at the time and how did the court marshall go!
Ron I believe there is a maratime nose somewhere but I have no idea who could have it – a bit hard to hide- anyway not the prettiest thing – I hope they use the standard nose.
Don’t forget the Aussie aircraft were used in anger in Malaya so it is a proper warbird.
Boy it sure is all happening here in Aus at present !!!
Regards
John P
By: JDK - 18th December 2004 at 18:14
Welcome Ron.
If you want to see some great Hudson history, visit Ron’s website…
By: David Burke - 18th December 2004 at 18:02
By some strange quirk of fate Ron there is a Lincoln sans nose for sale/sold in the U.K at present. Persistant rumours abound that it’s to move to Australia.
There does seem to be a meeting of minds with these two disjointed sectons
which might result in a complete aircraft.
By: Ron Cuskelly - 18th December 2004 at 06:31
Given that the Lincoln was the largest aircraft ever built in Australia, I have long considered it to be one of the greatest failures of the Australian aircraft preservation movement. If plans are afoot to recreate a Lincoln in Australia I will be delighted. However, I fear that Lincoln components are few and far between in Australia. Indeed, I believe that the only significant surviving Lincoln section is the nose of A73-27 at the Camden Museum of Aviation. As fate would have it, this aircraft had the standard length nose. However, if it is intended to rebuild a Lincoln, I suppose the restorers can do what the Government Aircraft Factory did in the first instance and extend a standard nose.
By: Peter - 16th December 2004 at 22:27
that third piccie is heartbreaking….
By: Spiteful21 - 16th December 2004 at 20:21
Australian Lincolns
Thought you all might like these pic of Australian Lincolns
By: Mark12 - 16th December 2004 at 11:50
Mark,
International Alloys, that brings back memories. Climbing over the fence onto the railway embankment and walking down the side of the yard to photograph the huge pile of Fireflies.
Yes International Alloys, Aylesbury circa 1959, before the the mass Firefly execution.
Mark
By: Steve Bond - 16th December 2004 at 11:38
Mark,
International Alloys, that brings back memories. Climbing over the fence onto the railway embankment and walking down the side of the yard to photograph the huge pile of Fireflies.
By: Nermal - 16th December 2004 at 11:33
A gratuitous Lincoln shot taken in my travels. 🙁
Good luck to the Aussies if they are gong to take it on.
Mark
Where and when? – Nermal
By: Dave Homewood - 16th December 2004 at 11:28
The RAAF operated Lincolns, and I think they even built a few didn’t they?
By: Onliwun - 16th December 2004 at 11:23
Why would they want this Lincoln hulk down in Australia?
By: Mark12 - 16th December 2004 at 09:33
The way we were.
A gratuitous Lincoln shot taken in my travels. 🙁
Good luck to the Aussies if they are gong to take it on.
Mark