October 30, 2004 at 5:14 pm
The last of Jacks photo’s.
These are of Sea Fury’s mainy. But there is one of a formation of Hornets and Fury’s. To see that would be to die for.
I hope you enjoy these.
If you want use them, please let me know.
If you want to use as screen saver, Go ahead.
There are 9 more to follow this batch.
By: Corsair166b - 17th November 2004 at 22:20
Great stuff….they all had problems coming aboard, no matter what plane type or how excellently the plane handled, did’nt they? Lots of perfectly good planes came to grief that way…such is the life of a Naval aviator.
I notice the Fireflies and Spits/Seafires in some pics…any chance one of these is Eddie Kurdziel’s machine (Firefly?)
Mark
By: Avro's Finest - 17th November 2004 at 21:50
😀 I must’ve missed an earlier thread,who is Jack please and what did he do? [apart from take photos 😀 ]
Fantastic photos,it made me feel cold just watching those poor souls struggle on in thick coats on an icy flight deck BRRRRRRRR
Jack, God bless im,
is saddly no longer with us. But in his Navy days he was a mechanic on Corsairs. I met him a few years ago when he turned up at Duxford, and I was working for OFMCo. He came into the hanger at the time I was pre-flighting the Corsair, he called me over and asked if he could have a look. Thats how I met a really gentle man, it was some time after this I received a package via the Guardroom, and inside, is what you see now. Also inside, was a collection of photographs of the Corsairs he worked on, I put them on the forum a while back now, the link is here.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33916
By: Andy in Beds - 17th November 2004 at 21:27
Which Ship.
I think the majority of these were taken on Ark Royal.
Can anyone confirm this.
Cheers
Andy
By: Andy in Beds - 17th November 2004 at 11:29
Wonderful Pictures.
Awesome–I use that word a lot in relation to this forum.
Cheers
Andy
By: turbo_NZ - 17th November 2004 at 07:41
I don’t think so…this looks like a classic stall to me. Notice in the last shot, showing the Sea Fury coming over the stern of the ship, you can see the starboard wing is stalled, and it appears the port wing aileron is up, indicating that the pilot has full left stick in to try and pick up the stalled right wing. While we cannot see the tail it is almost certain that he had significant up elevator, given the angle of attack. This is what is known as being “behind the power curve”. At this point the pilot probably applied full power, which with his slow airspeed and full flaps was insufficient to fly him out of this corner.
The Sea Fury has excellent directional control, with a very effective rudder. A go-around is not difficult to execute, as the large vertical stab and rudder are very effective even at slow speed, and the plane does not have a tendency to drop a wing or torque roll with the addition of full power, provided the pilot is not behind the aircraft.
SRP
Thanks Steve for the very comprehensive answer.
Cheers
Chris
TNZ
By: glanini - 17th November 2004 at 05:39
Avro, thank you so much amazing photos, they left me breathless
Just one information when were those pics taken, was it the late forties or the early fifties and which carrier
thank you anyway for sharing
By: STORMBIRD262 - 17th November 2004 at 05:13
You said it mate, Simply AWESOME
Top stuff Avro 😀 .
I like photo’s showing the plane’s doing what they were made for :rolleyes: , Make’s a change from the big boy’s toy’s shot’s :p .
Cheer’s all, :dev2: Tally Ho! :diablo: Phil.
By: setter - 17th November 2004 at 04:51
Hi Steve
The tecinishal term is “SU” or more properly SNAFU and I will translate on the phone now I am back in Aus soon………..
PS Want to buy a cheap Spad or B/Cat………….. 20 to chose from
Regards
JP
By: srpatterson - 17th November 2004 at 04:31
Question,..
Perhaps “Jacks” incident was caused by torque-roll ?
Just an uneducated guess.How vicious is the Centaurus on the Sea Fury ?
TNZ
I don’t think so…this looks like a classic stall to me. Notice in the last shot, showing the Sea Fury coming over the stern of the ship, you can see the starboard wing is stalled, and it appears the port wing aileron is up, indicating that the pilot has full left stick in to try and pick up the stalled right wing. While we cannot see the tail it is almost certain that he had significant up elevator, given the angle of attack. This is what is known as being “behind the power curve”. At this point the pilot probably applied full power, which with his slow airspeed and full flaps was insufficient to fly him out of this corner.
The Sea Fury has excellent directional control, with a very effective rudder. A go-around is not difficult to execute, as the large vertical stab and rudder are very effective even at slow speed, and the plane does not have a tendency to drop a wing or torque roll with the addition of full power, provided the pilot is not behind the aircraft.
SRP
By: turbo_NZ - 17th November 2004 at 04:01
Question,..
Perhaps “Jacks” incident was caused by torque-roll ?
Just an uneducated guess.
How vicious is the Centaurus on the Sea Fury ?
TNZ
By: srpatterson - 17th November 2004 at 03:56
Thanks, wonderful stuff…
SRP
By: ageorge - 16th November 2004 at 20:39
Superb , thanks for sharing .
Al
By: trumper - 16th November 2004 at 20:28
😀 I must’ve missed an earlier thread,who is Jack please and what did he do? [apart from take photos 😀 ]
Fantastic photos,it made me feel cold just watching those poor souls struggle on in thick coats on an icy flight deck BRRRRRRRR
By: DazDaMan - 16th November 2004 at 18:24
Fantastic stuff 🙂
By: Arabella-Cox - 16th November 2004 at 18:12
Magnificent! I missed these first time round…
By: Avro's Finest - 31st October 2004 at 10:20
Fantastic pictures Avro – real “in the thick of it” stuff!
Could you tell me whether the ditching photos are all of the same incident (2 obviously are) or are they seperate incidents?
Dean
Hi Dean.
They are all the same, all 4. Pilot got out OK, battered and bruised but OK.
Glad you enjoyed them.
Steve.
By: skypilot62 - 31st October 2004 at 10:11
Fantastic pictures Avro – real “in the thick of it” stuff!
Could you tell me whether the ditching photos are all of the same incident (2 obviously are) or are they seperate incidents?
Dean
By: Andrew-O - 31st October 2004 at 07:55
Just superb photos – thanks for sharing !
By: Avro's Finest - 30th October 2004 at 22:03
Great pics of fabulous aeroplanes! 🙂 I have to say though that it turns my stomach to see deck landings that go wrong.. 🙁
Jack did say he was picked up, a bit the worse for wear, and very wet but OK.
By: Papa Lima - 30th October 2004 at 20:24
Well spotted !!!!!!!!!!
Don’t you just love a “Smart A–e”
Sorry, but I thought someone might want to read the serial on the wing!
Great photos!