October 8, 2004 at 2:23 am
Having just been in talking to Crazymainer about his quiz got me thinkingโฆ
I remember reading once about the Airship launched fighters of the 30โs.
The fighter would be launched and then they would dive away and then climb vertically until they were alongside the airship (drigible). With the engine screaming at full-power they could basically remain at a standstill hanging onto the air vertically because the aircraft had a good power to weight ratio.
This was apparently a popular trick for the pilots to do.
Is this true?
That would mean the biplanes would have to have a 1:1 p to w ratio.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
TNZ.
By: Distiller - 8th October 2004 at 11:30
Nowhere near 1:1 — the F9C pictured above had about 440hp and 2800lbs.
The 1930’s biplane-fighter with the best power/weight ratio I think was the F2F-1 with 660hp and 3800lbs.
By: JDK - 8th October 2004 at 11:15
There’s that little ‘edit post’ button which alows you to delete the post…
By: turbo_NZ - 8th October 2004 at 05:10
lol… ๐
It must be a Kiwi thing….
๐
TNZ
By: amitch - 8th October 2004 at 04:31
opps
Sorry about the last post, I made some changes to my profile and they didn’t appear to save. So to check, I did a dummy post, only I was the dummy and hit the wrong button.
Sorry.
By: amitch - 8th October 2004 at 04:25
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By: turbo_NZ - 8th October 2004 at 04:24
Wow, that jumper/formater of the C-130 would have been great to video !!!
Just that I remember reading a story about the Sparrowhawk pilots doing that trick.
When the aircraft was holding the constant vertical, the airframe would spin around slowly under the engine torque as there was insufficient airflow over the wings/ailerons to counteract this.
Just can’t remember where I read this and have googled a lot unsuccessfully.
Cheers
TNZ
By: crazymainer - 8th October 2004 at 03:59
Hi Chris,
I wqouldn’t say a true 1:1 ratio but very close remember this aircraft were very light and with a big Round Engine up front you can with the right power setting you could do this. Also you must take in account that these Airships were rather large and under the right counditions you could almost get a near dead stable air.
This can be done if you are into Jumping out of aircraft I was up for a jump out of a C-130 and the Jump Master told me he was going to fly formation with the 130. ๐ฎ What he did was jump and let the Ground Effect out the Rear Door pull him under the Tail where he flew in formation, the craziest thing i’ve ever saw. I try to do it a few times but could never get it my body weight would not let me stay in one position. :confused:
So basically what the Curtis are doing is what the Jump Master was doing.
I hope this explains it somewhat.
Cheers Crazymainer
By: turbo_NZ - 8th October 2004 at 03:47
Take care Phil, ๐
Cheers
Chris
By: STORMBIRD262 - 8th October 2004 at 03:34
Nice Rob, But I think Turbo(chris) Wants to Know about the question, I have been digging, But not much luck as yet, Nackered today, Must lay down for a while, Have a bloody cold as well, Maybe back tommorow, Cheers Lads, Tally Ho! Phil.
By: turbo_NZ - 8th October 2004 at 03:30
Great pics, thanks Crazymainer.
Must have been quite a sight to see the launching of the aircraft. ๐
Do you know anything about the aforementioned “trick” ?
Cheers
TNZ
By: crazymainer - 8th October 2004 at 03:25
Here You Go TNZ
Hi TNZ,
Here you go,



The Airship is the USS Macon ZRS-5 the aircraft about to hock up is a Curtis F9C-1
The three in formation are F9C-1 the other is a F9C-2 about to hock up to the USS Akron ZRS-4
Cheers Crazymainer