Quote from todays “Verdens Gang (VG)” (norwegian newspaper):
My translation….
“Cought with parts of old aircraft wreaks. The british couple tried to travel from Norway with a van heavily loaded with parts of old aircarft wreacks. But the customs did stop them. When the couple should declare the parts in customs at Kristiansand last week, the customs revealed that the brits had not got the proper permit to export the historic parts. This is confirmed by controlmangager Per Emil Wikøren.
-Heavy aircraft parts.
Inside the van, it was found several heavy parts that originate from the aircraft type Gloster Gladiator, which RAF used in WWII (Norway too… 😉 ) Among the goods it is parts that orginates from a british aircraft that was shot down in Norway in 1940. The confiscation is descibed as being several cubic meters. Such parts and relics from the war is managed by the Defence Museum. Director at the museum, Rolf Scheen says such parts belong to the government, and it is illigal to remove these from either mountain or sea. This was an attempt to export these parts illegally, Scheen says. He says that parts from old aircarft wreacks has great economical value. It si at this time, not clear where the parts were originally found. Director Shceen says this will be a police matter.”
Strange….!
No one seriously involved with the business in the UK would do this, would they..? Or, is it more to it,than the newspaper article says..?
By: setter - 21st September 2004 at 15:13
Hi James
By doing the paperwork I mean working through the whole process – I agree I hope this is all a horrible mistake and it will be OK but most cases (not yet this one) result from impatience or ignorance on the part of the exporter.
Anyway if it stays in limbo for years we all lose
My tuppence
Regards
John P
By: JDK - 21st September 2004 at 14:30
Don’t get me wrong folks what this couple did was wrong but please don’t try to compare what goes on down in PNG or Russia to ongoing recovery operations in Europe.
Fair comment, CM 🙂 .
Except we don’t (yet) know if what happened was illegal, or the result of a beuracratic muddle. Benefit of the doubt etc. The starting point for such Government functions is to arrest the people first and sort it out later. It may have been illegal, it may have been a misunderstanding, and it may also have been in the grey area between these two things.
Anyone who’s tried moving goods from one country to another will know how easy it is to get snarled up, even without trying to deal with something this controversial! Just a thought.
By: crazymainer - 21st September 2004 at 12:53
PNG not the …………………
This has been going on for ages in PNG – see over on the WIX forum for several carbon copy cases.
Elliot,
Yes there has been stuff like this happen in PNG, but also remember that alot of the stuff that has come out start out with the right idea IE get the paperwork then , pay the right fees. Then along the way the VERY CORUPT GOVERMENT steps in and say well you know if you wan to have that plane then its going to COST you X-Amount to recover it then you have to have my Brother move it then my wifes Brother has to load it on to the Boat.
Or well we really don’t want you Westerns taken are History so you can’t have it three weeks later you read or hera that the plane you were haven a go at was cut up and scrap, so much much for preservain history.
Don’t get me wrong folks what this couple did was wrong but please don’t try to compare what goes on down in PNG or Russia to ongoing recovery operations in Europe.
Cheers Crazymainer
By: Whitley_Project - 21st September 2004 at 12:04
I’m not commenting on this particular case, but even in the best countries ‘sorting out the paperwork properly’ can be literally impossible. It might seem a sensible streightforward concept, but it often isn’t. Beuracrats often ‘criminilise’ otherwise genuine mistakes – a good starting position from their point of view!
Hmmm when all this stuff is just lying around on hillsides the overwhelming temptation for some people is just to go along and take. It still is very common over here and it’s been protected for almost 20 years now. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if this turned out to be premeditated theft.
This has been going on for ages in PNG – see over on the WIX forum for several carbon copy cases.
Cynical, but lets see what happens.
By: JDK - 21st September 2004 at 12:00
I’m not commenting on this particular case, but even in the best countries ‘sorting out the paperwork properly’ can be literally impossible. It might seem a sensible streightforward concept, but it often isn’t. Beuracrats often ‘criminilise’ otherwise genuine mistakes – a good starting position from their point of view!
By: Whitley_Project - 21st September 2004 at 11:42
Anyone out there have any info on who these naughty Brits were?
By: setter - 20th September 2004 at 23:50
Hi
Of course the other part of this stupidity is that now the parts will be in limbo for years whilst the mess is sorted out. Why can’t people just do the right thing and sort out the paperwork in the first place!
Regards
John P
By: Stieglitz - 20th September 2004 at 17:53
Sad to see such things do happen. (and I’m afraid more often than I think 🙁 ). The only good news here is that they where stoped by the costums. That couple had a strange souvenir from their trip.
J.V.
By: paulmcmillan - 20th September 2004 at 17:43
Not from N5697 and/or N5693 are they?
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