September 2, 2004 at 2:31 pm
By: Peter - 6th September 2004 at 17:05
that was probably the one in the lake lancaster KB999
By: HP57 - 6th September 2004 at 16:59
Ok Guys,
I’m game, hell it looks like my Back yard. Nothing a Skidder could’nt do to get into.
Peter is there and small clearings near by and who has control of the Lake. IE is it a Paper Company or is it the Gov.?
Cee’s was this the one you sk me about when I was going up to Nothern Canadia to have a look at.
Cheers Crazymainer
No, I don’t think so. 😮
Cheers
Cees
By: Peter - 6th September 2004 at 16:55
Crazyminer,
I am waiting word back from the contact I had there it is in the Yukon in Watson lake. Apparently the only reason that it is partly on shore is that it was partially salvaged to find the cause of the accident which was fuel problems. It was stripped of useables and then left to the elements..
By: crazymainer - 6th September 2004 at 15:55
Hi Peter,
I live in Portland Maine but I spend alot of times in the deep woods of are State.
If its close to the shore line then it should be an easy recovery, Hell it looks like the hardest part is on shore. Were is it located in general IE Providance ect. I’m guess its most likely Paper Property and if it is then getting permission to do a recovery is rather easy on that part its getting Ottawas OK that can be sort of Sticky look how long it took to get the 17 out.
Do you know of any Museums that would be interested in the plane? I can give my contacts in the RCAF a ring and see if they would like to do a training operation.
As the old saying goes there is more then one way to Skin at Cat.
Cheers Crazymainer
By: Peter - 6th September 2004 at 15:32
some further info on this
I know quite a bit of the airplane is still in the lake as I seen it a couple of summers ago. I Quite a bit of it is submerged right by the shore and there is quite a bit up on the bank of the lake. I imagine a lot of it is missing as people pack things away all the time.
By: Peter - 6th September 2004 at 15:28
Id have to look into and get back to you on that crazyminer..
where you at?
By: crazymainer - 6th September 2004 at 15:16
Tell Me more about the Lincoln
Ok Guys,
I’m game, hell it looks like my Back yard. Nothing a Skidder could’nt do to get into.
Peter is there and small clearings near by and who has control of the Lake. IE is it a Paper Company or is it the Gov.?
Cee’s was this the one you sk me about when I was going up to Nothern Canadia to have a look at.
Cheers Crazymainer
By: Peter - 6th September 2004 at 15:06
Crazyminer.
I am talking about 2 wrecks …
Firstly the York wreck and the owners comments then secondly re the lincoln. I guess if you have the funds, then there is nothing stopping anyone from recovering the lincoln wreckage but it will be bloody expensive as there are no roads to that side of the lake and the wings etc are in forest like conditions…..
Attached is a pic of the wrecksite, as you can see theres no roads at all and all parts would have to be lifted onto a barge or airlifted out. If you look closely on the shore, that thing that looks like white sandy shore is in fact the lincoln fuselage and you can see other parts in the water..
By: crazymainer - 6th September 2004 at 02:27
Peter I’m Confuse???????????
The iarcraft is located at Hall Beach. The leader of the project states
If anyone would like to contact the fellow in charge to offere help or donate towards her recovery I can pass along email info via a pm to me..Cees,
The Lincoln section is still there in the lake and on the shoreline. I was sent many photos of this aircraft but sadly I am unable to post on the internet as per the owners instructions. All can say is that there is at least a 15 to 20 foot section of fusealge from aft of the front spar to the cockpit laying on its side near the shore and the wing sections, canopy frame and engine parts are dumped on the shoreline. Apparently there are more parts still in the lake including the tail section.
Hi Peter,
I’m alittle confuse over the Lincoln, do I understand your post that the owner of the plane has it scattered all over the shoreline, or is that the person who took the photos wish that they aren’t posted?
If its the later then what is stopping people from going in and doing the recovery. Besides $$$$ and the proper paperwork.
Cheers Crazymainer
By: Peter - 6th September 2004 at 02:18
The York wreck is located at Hall Beach. The leader of the project states
We do not have any immediate plans as of yet however we do have a working
arrangement with the Government of Nunavut.To recover the remains of this York
would be a major effort and at this time would take more $$$ than we have. It
isn’t moving any time soon though, owing to it’s location!
If anyone would like to contact the fellow in charge to offere help or donate towards her recovery I can pass along email info via a pm to me..
Cees,
The Lincoln section is still there in the lake and on the shoreline. I was sent many photos of this aircraft but sadly I am unable to post on the internet as per the owners instructions. All can say is that there is at least a 15 to 20 foot section of fuselage from aft of the front spar to the cockpit laying on its side near the shore and the wing sections, canopy frame and engine parts are dumped on the shoreline. Apparently there are more parts still in the lake including the tail section.
By: vicky ten - 3rd September 2004 at 19:27
Peter,
Where abouts is that that crashed York?
Charles
Yes, I would like to know as well, is it still that complete?
By: dumaresqc - 3rd September 2004 at 18:52
Peter,
Where abouts is that that crashed York?
Charles
By: Corsair166b - 3rd September 2004 at 18:45
I read something here recently that once all the B-17’s that are restored to airworthy or are SUPPOSED to be restored to airworthy condition are completed, there will be 19 of them (it was the FlyPast B-17 special issue) in the air if all goes well…
I don’t think they included this one…better up that tally by One!
mark
By: Spacepope - 3rd September 2004 at 15:41
What a nice find! The recovery as Starfire has mentioned is very reminiscent of the B29 that was brought to the surface and burned. I hope the restoration is successful!
Todd
Howso? The B-29 remained on the surface, this B-17 sank into the depths once the spring thaw came. The photo in the article is a file photo taken before the B-17 went swimming.
By: HP57 - 3rd September 2004 at 15:40
cees,
That York is pretty much spoken for. I believe salvage rights are soon to be granted once the last hurdle is overcome with the local gov’t
That’s great news Peter,
I hope that she is properly restored. Now how about that Lanc/Lincoln in Watson Lake. About time the substantial wrecks are brought in from the cold.
Cees
By: Whitleyfreak - 3rd September 2004 at 15:20
What a nice find! The recovery as Starfire has mentioned is very reminiscent of the B29 that was brought to the surface and burned. I hope the restoration is successful!
Todd
By: Peter - 2nd September 2004 at 21:41
cees,
That York is pretty much spoken for. I believe salvage rights are soon to be granted once the last hurdle is overcome with the local gov’t
By: Ross Smith - 2nd September 2004 at 20:54
Great news. I remember seeing that documentary, but don’t think it has been repeated again.
By: Der - 2nd September 2004 at 20:48
There was a programme on telly a while back about the discovery of this B17-might have been Discovery Wings.
By: HP57 - 2nd September 2004 at 18:57
About the York
Or, how about using the wings and tail to reconstruct a Manchester 😉
Cees