September 1, 2004 at 12:04 am
Hello gentlemen,
I thought you’d might be interested in the fact that the Bf 109 (D-FWME) “Rote 7” recently had its first flight again after a complete restauration. She is based at Albatadt-Degerfeld, Germany.
Fuselage is a CASA, engine is an original DB 605 AB( assembled from 24 different engines).
Check this link for some photos:
http://www.sturmovik.de/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=7381&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Andreas
By: DaveM2 - 3rd September 2004 at 01:53
Would these have been the DB’s that were reputedly found buried in their crates at Frankfurt airport a few years ago perhaps? Seem to recall there was talk of about half a dozen being found and recovered but then everything went all quiet.
No they wouldn’t, none of those were anywhere near airworthy. The Flugwerk find came out of Eastern Europe in crates. Don’t know the quantity…
Dave
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 2nd September 2004 at 17:52
BTW – you may remember in the Flypast Classified Ads earlier this year that a chap in Daventry had a 605 for sale – the opening gambit was ‘well i want at least £10k for it’ and the conversation kinda stalled….especially as it was a crash recovered…:)
By: STORMBIRD262 - 2nd September 2004 at 17:52
Yes if only Dave
Just dreaming as usual :rolleyes: , The use of all these new build/replicas and other aircraft projects such as warplanes that have not been seen to leave the ground since 45, Will open many more wartime movies with just their looks 😮 , To me just to see the two Point Cook Stangs sweep in together and do a series of beat ups of the field blew me away 🙂 , The Merlins purred in my ears like never before, I placed myself with 35mm at take off end of Runway wormed my way in with the pro boys taking pics and vid and smelt and felt the heat blow over us they went past 😀 , With asistance from Melb hot day and wind,It was a small show, Something to do with the base about 10/12 years ago, I was invited to go to the big Stang round up at Tyabb this year which would have been fantastic, But the visits at Cook on 17th dec 03 and 27/28 04 and hot summer, Dimmed my energy stocks 🙁 , So missed it, Next one YES 😉 , To watch 2 real looking 109s and 2 Butcher Birds followed by 2 262s as the top act beat up the field 😮 , Would have to be a life long fantasy dream that was never meant to happen :confused: , Bit like jumping in H.G.Wells Time machine :p , LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL :p , Cheers, Tally Ho! Phil 😎
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 2nd September 2004 at 17:50
An Italian friend of mine – restoring a T-6 in Italy came across several crated DBs in Italy – think they are for sale/have been sold – also if memory serves right there is a crated (and stencilled) DB on the ‘engine wall’ in the Superhangar at DX…
By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd September 2004 at 17:44
Would these have been the DB’s that were reputedly found buried in their crates at Frankfurt airport a few years ago perhaps? Seem to recall there was talk of about half a dozen being found and recovered but then everything went all quiet.
By: Rob Mears - 2nd September 2004 at 17:36
Top stuff , If only there were more D.B.s around
Speaking of this, does anyone have the scoop on Flug Werk and their statement: “Along with the exclusive possibility to power the 109’s with all new DB 601 engines, Flug Werk has now the opportunity to revive another very important fighter aircraft of German WWII fame”?
I’m curious to know how many ‘new’ DB’s they might have located. Any chance of a substantial find?
By: DazDaMan - 2nd September 2004 at 08:22
We’d also need all the Spits re-engined and possibly retailed to look like Mk I’s and II’s. 🙂
Or build several replicas for about $250,000…. :rolleyes:
By: Dave Homewood - 2nd September 2004 at 05:58
Then maybe a remake of the B of B movie that would be authentic 🙂
Well no, because most of the Buchons that have been re-engined with German engines have been made into Bf109G models, so though a little more aesthetically pleasing they won’t actually be authentic for a Battle of Britain film. We’d also need all the Spits re-engined and possibly retailed to look like Mk I’s and II’s. 🙂
I think Brad Pitt would be very good, he’s a good actor and can do an Irish accent very well. I’m sure he could do an English one if he tried. 🙂 he’d be much better than the less versatile Tom Cruise, put it that way. Although Tom can actually fly the planes which is a bonus I suppose.
By: crazymainer - 2nd September 2004 at 04:19
Cessna of the Warbirds
Yea,
Another Flyer, just think now if we can get all of those Darn Merlins out of the Buchon and give them back to those Cessna :p Uh I mean Mustanf and Spitfirers owners that would make them Happy. :rolleyes:
Mustang and Spitfire the Cessna of the Warbird Communitie, have you ever notice when a Low Wing WWII aircraft is spoken about they on this side of the Pond Call them Mustangs and on European side Spits. 😮 😀
Give me a round engine it can get me home with out all that nasty fluids :p
Chers Crazymainer
By: STORMBIRD262 - 2nd September 2004 at 04:01
Yuck
I never liked the stand ins :p , The T-6/Harvard Zeros anoyed me as well :rolleyes: , Cheers, Tally Ho! Phil 😀
By: John Boyle - 1st September 2004 at 16:44
If you want a charecter actor, you can’t beat a Buchon.
List of parts played in films (there’s been others, these are those I can remember):
Itself
Messerschmitt 109 (B/D, E, F, G)
Spitfire
Hurricane
Mustang (P51B/C(?!)
Not bad…
It would seem the Buchon has a wider character range than the aforementioned Mr. Cruise. 🙂
(Though less actual range than the Spitfire and Mustang).
By: JDK - 1st September 2004 at 16:20
If you want a charecter actor, you can’t beat a Buchon.
List of parts played in films (there’s been others, these are those I can remember):
Itself
Messerschmitt 109 (B/D, E, F, G)
Spitfire
Hurricane
Mustang (P51B/C(?!)
Not bad…
By: Stieglitz - 1st September 2004 at 16:17
p.s. are there any real actors around now days who could pull this off :confused:
I don’t think Brad Pitt can do that job. :rolleyes:
On that link of Alpha, it is told (if my knowledge of the german language is OK) that the Me109 should make its first flight next monday, and a second one next week on wednesday. The team has plans to make a press release in october with a lot more info. But for now, they want to complete their paperwork and get a permit to fly.
PS: Don’t convert all the Buchons to DB. Some of us just might also like the merlin bird. 😮 Of course a DB is very very very …. nice too!
J.V.
By: STORMBIRD262 - 1st September 2004 at 16:10
Yippy Another REAL looking 109
Top stuff 😀 , If only there were more D.B.s around 🙁 , Than at long last the ugly Merlin Buchons could get a their much needed nose jobs :rolleyes: , Then maybe a remake of the B of B movie that would be authentic 🙂 , Now that I’d like to see 😮 , Cheers everyone, Tally Ho! Phil 😉 (p.s. are there any real actors around now days who could pull this off :confused: )
By: Stieglitz - 1st September 2004 at 13:05
EADS is owner of two buchon’s (D-FMBB and D-FDME).
This buchon (Rote 7) CN 319 is reported to be in france at this site:
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/
But here it is reported to be OWNED :confused: by Flugwerk in germany:
http://www.avions-de-legende.com/tablprof/Tabrest.htm
This could ewmpain its registration FlugWerk ME109.
But nohing is mentioned on the website of Flugwerk. Maybe french owners, but transported to flugwerk for the fitting of the DB engine? :confused:
http://www.flugwerk.com/new/me109/index.shtm
Maybe someone else can hep us out here? 😮
J.V.
By: DazDaMan - 1st September 2004 at 12:35
EADS being the ones operating the other ‘Bf109s’ in Germany, D-FMBB and D-HDME?
By: alpha - 1st September 2004 at 12:34
This is great news! Thanks a lot Alpha. Who operates this Buchon? EADS? :confused:
J.V.
Iit’s a group of enthusiasts that operate this 109 (until now they kept the whole project as secret as possible). To my (limited) knowledge EADS is not involved.
Andreas
By: DazDaMan - 1st September 2004 at 08:26
Yay! Another one up! 🙂 Let’s see some flying shots of her soon!
By: Stieglitz - 1st September 2004 at 08:02
This is great news! Thanks a lot Alpha. Who operates this Buchon? EADS? :confused:
J.V.
By: DaveM2 - 1st September 2004 at 06:57
Spanish built Bf-109G?
Yes.
Dave