August 27, 2004 at 8:16 pm
This is a bit cheeky really as I am not entirely sure of the exact details myself – so it is more of a trawl than a quiz, but I hope someone might fill in a bit more information for me!
So here goes – What, Where, When?
Jim
By: JDK - 28th August 2004 at 16:27
All the Walrii? Where? Where? 😀
Seriously theough, not enough Wapati and fedoras around here. Neat stuff.
Cheers
By: Jimw - 28th August 2004 at 11:16
Ok then,
here are some more:
The Wapati hoisted aboard
The ‘Rescue ‘ party meet Ellsworth
Hollick-Kenyon, Ellsworths Pilot
Jim
By: JDK - 28th August 2004 at 10:40
It’s not a P-51D so I won’t get bored (tired old in joke being dragged out again, Sorry.) And even P-51s can be interesting, as long as they are burried in a sandpit for 1/2 century first…
Rare pics are always welcome – I’m sure others would like to see the others – the people too!
Cheers!
By: Jimw - 28th August 2004 at 10:32
Thanks for reply JDK,
I am afraid there are no other aviation related images in his photo album, other than one of the Wapati being hoisted aboard in Australia and another couple of Lincoln Ellsworth and Hollick-Kenyon ( Ellsworth’s pilot). Anyway I did promise not to post any more……( I thought you might get bored)
Jim
By: JDK - 28th August 2004 at 10:22
A ‘lead’ in this context is an area of open water among the ice. Floatplanes were the most popular for sub arctic exploration, as open water what you’d have best chance of finding. Once they were exploring the polar shelf, exchangeable undercarriages came in. Does anyone know if there were ice runners put on floatplanes / flying boats before the Grumman Albatross was so equipped?
Thanks for sharing the pics, if you’ve got more we’d love to see them!
Cheers
By: Jimw - 28th August 2004 at 10:02
Thanks for the information
the Gamma appears to be on floats – I would have thought it must have been a risky business taking off and landing in conditions of floating ice!
Incidentally, the Discovery II had two aeroplanes on board – A moth on floats and a Wapati partially dismantled on deck.
I enclose the last photos ( honest!) – the moth on deck, the moth taking off – the captions says ‘ scouting for a lead’ – presumably for a clear passge through the ice, the Wapati on deck and an admittedly poor shot of my Great Uncle, Arthur Moore taken in bad weather on Discovery II
By: Andy in Beds - 27th August 2004 at 23:14
Thread.
Jim
thanks for sharing some interesting pictures, complete with a family connection.
Cheers
Andy
By: John Boyle - 27th August 2004 at 22:57
It’s now in the Smithsonian Museum.
A neat ship and one of the few surviving Northrops…
By: Jimw - 27th August 2004 at 22:37
Spot on!
My Great Uncle was on board the Discovery II which met ( rescued?) Ellesworth at Little America January 15th 1936. The photo of the Gamma on the boat was taken on January 20th when Hawks arrived to meet Ellsworth. I enclse another photo of the Gamma and one of Ellsworth and Hawks meeting.
What I havn’t been able to determine was the Second Gamma ( not Ellsworth’s polar star) ever flown in the antarctic as part of the ‘rescue’ mission?
By: Jimw - 27th August 2004 at 20:49
Right aircraft, wrong hemisphere!
A clue – taken late January 1936
By: Ewan Hoozarmy - 27th August 2004 at 20:41
Looks like some fancy racing aircraft, not sure of the type (Northrop?), but the reg should give it away…
….and it did.
NR 13759 Gamma 2D, 10 – > [XA-ABJ] > Spanish Civil War