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Heinkel 111 & Meschersmit 109 at Duxford

Hi there,

Can anyone tell me anything about a Heinkel 111 & Meschersmit 109 (not sure if it is whole or parts of these a/c) at Duxford? Both would have been recovered in Norway before landing up at IWM.

Looking for serial no’s and any other information about the history of these two aircraft.

All I know to date is that they were recovered by a local Trondheim diving club, Draugen.

Thanks in advance.

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By: paulmcmillan - 2nd June 2004 at 16:46

from http://www.luftwaffe.no/SIG/Losses/tap43.html

26.02.43
IV./J.G.5
F
Nordvest for Trondheim
Emergency landing on sea
Bf 109G-1
14120
100
No personal injury

And while you are at it for all you who wanted to look up Luftwaffe 109 codes

http://www.yeowell19.freeserve.co.uk/stkzmen.htm

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By: archieraf - 2nd June 2004 at 14:57

Thanks very much Dave & Flood for pointing me in the right direction. After seeing the thread I realised that I had read it at the time it was current but at the time I didn’t need to know about the two a/c in question!

Both the He111 and the Me109 were recovered by the same team of divers who discovered the Halifax W1048 in 1968 which is now on display in the Bomber Command Hall in Hendon. The Me109 came out of a fjord (don’t know the name, possibly Trondheimfjord) and the He111 from a lake called Storvatnet – as with the Halifax, it had also crashed on the frozen lake before sinking.

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By: Flood - 2nd June 2004 at 13:36

Ok – a month or two… (Sorry).

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By: Dave Homewood - 2nd June 2004 at 13:11

Found it – I think…

After more than half an hour of intensive searching i think i found the thread you refer to. The Search Engine was no help at all.

http://forum.airforces.info/showthread.php?t=23662

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By: Flood - 2nd June 2004 at 12:15

Thanks to all for your replies, and to Flood for the excellent picture. I couldn’t find the thread you mentioned from a month back Flood but then I’ve not mastered the way the search facility works on this new set up yet. If you know where it is can you pop a link on here? – ta muchly.

Nope – the search facility is now officially, utterly ‘carp’ (anag.).
It was here in the run up to Merlins Over Malta (9/5/04) and I did quite a bit of searching through my old copies of Wrecks and Relics – so since the info is there, somewhere, I am loath to do it all over again…

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By: archieraf - 2nd June 2004 at 08:32

Thanks to all for your replies, and to Flood for the excellent picture. I couldn’t find the thread you mentioned from a month back Flood but then I’ve not mastered the way the search facility works on this new set up yet. If you know where it is can you pop a link on here? – ta muchly.

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By: DaveM2 - 1st June 2004 at 23:54

The Me109 remains were definitely scrapped years ago ,as they were too corroded , [ course somebody would have made ‘it’ air worthy these days ;-0 ] . I made a similar inquiry to Ken Ellis some years ago.

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By: Kenneth - 1st June 2004 at 21:33

try: www.axisaircraft.com 😉

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By: Flood - 1st June 2004 at 21:18

This is the He111E tail taken at MoM the other week.
There was a thread here a month ago – think the rest got scrapped.

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By: PhantomII - 1st June 2004 at 20:44

I want a -110 to be made flyable even though that’s probably not likely.

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By: Ant.H - 1st June 2004 at 20:00

The rear fuselage and one engine from Hess’ 110 are displayed in the upper galleries at IWM Lambeth.The other engine is displayed at the Museum of Flight at East Fortune.

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By: Denis - 1st June 2004 at 19:47

I remember the two aircraft when I was at Duxford with the Essex Aviation Group back in 1980, The Rudder/tailfin of the Heinkel is still at Duxford in one of the Hangers I think, the 109 I am not sure about, I remember seeing the nose cowling with the gun ports at one time, but that was all.
That reminds me , what happened to what was left of Rudolf Hess’s 110?.

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