Tempest II

I followed the link from Mike J.

Please, I really, really, really want to know about the Sea Fury N13HP in Texas. A turbojet Fury boggles the mind so much it hurts.

It is, I hate to admit, a full half-century since I was reduced as a toddler to a bawling, shrieking wreck by a Sea Fury. I can feel it all coming on again – I think I’m going to have to lie down in a darkened room.

William

I have a feeling this is typo by the FAA. If you scroll further down on the page you will see the engine is a 3350 as per the norm in the US. Really don’t think Pardue is about to go turbine.

T J

Shall we get back to the Tempest and save Reno for another day :rolleyes:

Ok, so you know about Sea Fury’s…..I think…ish!

I think I’ll just go back to flying September Fury at PRS and leave you armchair pilots to fight among yourselves 😀 😀 😀

😉

There were more Sea Furies than any other type in the Unlimited class at Reno last last year, robmac. I’m not sure where you get your figures from, but there are a lot more than 11 Furies / Sea Furies registered in the US. A enquire here brings up 30 currently registered.

As for 8 being lost in accidents and fires since 2002, that’s just absolute rubbish.

He may have got his facts wrong about the loses, but he is right about the amount of Sea Fury’s registered to fly at Reno, he didn’t mean in the whole of the States as you have stated 😉 Their have been 5 airframes damaged in the last 4 years, 2 destroyed completly.

I followed the link from Mike J.

Please, I really, really, really want to know about the Sea Fury N13HP in Texas. A turbojet Fury boggles the mind so much it hurts.

It is, I hate to admit, a full half-century since I was reduced as a toddler to a bawling, shrieking wreck by a Sea Fury. I can feel it all coming on again – I think I’m going to have to lie down in a darkened room.

William

When it’s finished!

😀 ok then when is the planned date for it to fly then?

James

Mike, I am pleased you found that, as I too was sure that there were more than 11 registered, and infact at Reno a few years ago, there were about 14 present.

There have been a few casualties over the years, but I question whether eight airframes have been destroyed beyond repair.

So when is this Tempest ment to be due flying then?

James

Its not widely known but the Wright R3350 had one of the most torturous gestations in aero engine history that made even the Sabre look easy, and made the early troubles with the Merlin look like they fitted the wrong spark plugs. At one point in 1944 there were rows upon Rows of B29s lined up without flight worthy engines. The whole B29 program was almost brought to its knees at one point. I’m sure they had a period around this time when not one single training mission was flown without an engine shutdown. All very inspiring for the forthcoming, long over water flights.

However the program was so vital to the US strategic aims that the bean counters at Wright were put in their box and the engineers allowed to at long last fix the problems. That this engine is now held up as a down of reliability and strength is due to the efforts of a very small group of engineers who battled against unbelievable olds at Wright Aeronautical. I think the US Air force had enough of Wright as well as the R3350 was their last major in house designed and produced aero engine. I think I’m correct in saying that most of the R3350s in Seafuries derive from the Skyraider engine, and some of the racing engines have parts from the turbo compound version that ran at 3500hp to 3800hp in commercial use.

There are only 11 registered Sea Fury’s, two have the Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Majors, ‘Dreadnought’ being one and ‘Furias’ being the other. The other 9, have heavily modified Wright R3350’s. You could add another 8 to that list from 2002 but they have either been destroyed by fire or crashed!

So, Sea Fury’s are definatly not in there masses in Reno :rolleyes:

Not in masses but this one was there.
Flown by a very naughty boy.

There are at least 3 Centaurus engined Furies/Sea Furies on the N reg, Ellsworth Getchell flies his from Ione/Hollister and has done for many years. If i recall correctly Gerry Yagen’s example also uses Bristol power.

Tom

There are quite a few racing Furies in the US (well into double figures). Must run fairly standard Wright R-3350 engines, a couple run the larger P&W R-4360s.

No Sabres have flown since the last target-tug Tempests were withdrawn in the 50s.

There are only 11 registered Sea Fury’s, two have the Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Majors, ‘Dreadnought’ being one and ‘Furias’ being the other. The other 9, have heavily modified Wright R3350’s. You could add another 8 to that list from 2002 but they have either been destroyed by fire or crashed!

So, Sea Fury’s are definatly not in there masses in Reno :rolleyes:

Didn’t the Sabre in the RAFM’s Typhoon fly in the late 60s? 😀

The Sabre was used in the Tempest V and VI, but the Mk.II that we are discussing currently used the Centaurus engine, but as mentioned above, an earlier type than the one used in the Sea Fury.

There are only a handful of Sea Fury’s on the racing scene at Reno and most of the engines in them are heavily modified and they are just as much gold dust over there as they are here. If I remember they are also different to the Centuraus. It was called the Sabre.

Won’t there be a pile of Bristol Centaurus engines in the States that have been removed from Sea Fury racers, I assume that these are compatible with a Tempest.
Incidentally, does between Stansted and Debden put Tempestnut somewhere near Quendon, by coincidence I was just talking to one of my clients who lives there while I was scanning this thread.

Unfortunately the Tempest II engine is completely different to the Centaurus 18. The only part that could be used is the engine bulkhead.

Won’t there be a pile of Bristol Centaurus engines in the States that have been removed from Sea Fury racers, I assume that these are compatible with a Tempest.
Incidentally, does between Stansted and Debden put Tempestnut somewhere near Quendon, by coincidence I was just talking to one of my clients who lives there while I was scanning this thread.

Not to far away but I’m in Henham. By the way does anyone know whose Griffon Powered Spitfire did a short display very near here at about 8:45 on Friday the 9th? Being near to Stansted it’s very unusual to hear growl of a piston engine. By the time I had convinced myself I wasn’t hearing things and got out from behind all the trees it was flying off back towards Duxford so I couldn’t see which on it was.

Won’t there be a pile of Bristol Centaurus engines in the States that have been removed from Sea Fury racers,

Mike Nixon has been known to dabble a bit with Centaurii…. & altho I can’t quite see his shop from where I’m sat, I can see the mountain on top of which it resides 🙂

I googled and found this site

http://www.hawkertempest.se/gtemp.htm
Pretty interesting (to me) reading in the Survivors section.

Won’t there be a pile of Bristol Centaurus engines in the States that have been removed from Sea Fury racers, I assume that these are compatible with a Tempest.
Incidentally, does between Stansted and Debden put Tempestnut somewhere near Quendon, by coincidence I was just talking to one of my clients who lives there while I was scanning this thread.

Oh right will it look like this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hawker_Tempest_VI_NX135_Langley_1945.jpg or this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hawker_Tempest01.jpg looks fab so can not wait for it to fly here in the UK.

James