anyone got £1.35 million to spare please

1/10 for effort so far

The only Spitfire without an RAF Serial was F.01 which was the 1st French Spitfire (of an inquiry for 3),
delivered in July 1939. The other 2 were never supplied. This was the 251st production aircraft and flew
with the GB B-Class Registration as N-21. It was burnt in June 1940 and the remains were captured by the Germans

Paul McMillan

Prototype Spitfire.

K5054 is the British Miitary serial. 🙁

Mark

recon im suffering extreme brain meltdown what was i thinking:o

K5054 it was indeed:rolleyes:

K5054?

I hope I’ve remembered that right!

I may be wildly of the mark but the only spit i can think of that didnt have a military serial would be the very first one.

Wasn’t this just a painter’s error for BS274?

Mark

Originally posted by dhfan
Puzzled. Which one?

There was the one with the false serial BF274, but I’m sure that ended up with the Dutch as a two-seater. Funnily enough, there was also a BF273, even though there was no such BF serial range. :confused:

Glenn,

Yes, I wasnt forgetting your dad and Ian – it was your Dad that got me into this crazy industry we so enjoy!

And twenty years is a bit optimistic as well!

Cheers

Bruce

I’m glad you remember it the way I do Bruce!

Historic Flying was started around the 1988/89 time frame by Tim Routsis, Dad and Ian Warren. Karel Bos didn’t come onto the scene until around 1997, but I guess, as Bruce said, the press only print what they are told…

Glenn

What I like about HFL is that they are usually quite fussy about who they sell them to.

Historic Flying has restored 12 Spitfires since it was set up by Karel Bos out of his “passion for vintage planes” 20 years ago

Funny, I worked there for ten years, and for the first seven, I could swear I was working for Tim Routsis….

Good old reporters, still they only report what they are told!

Bruce

Originally posted by Flood
Without getting pernickety I thought there was only one Spitfire that didn’t ever have an RAF serial – and that couldn’t possibly be this one!
Sorry.

Flood.

Puzzled. Which one?

Well if your Lottery numbers don’t come up n the near future, you can always purchase the HFL/Aeroplane Heaven FS2004 version of PV202 due out soon. 🙂

Not quite the same but almost as real as it gets.;)

And I suspect that there will be a few more of HFL’s Spits to grace the virtual world too. 😀

http://www.historicflying.com/gallery.htm

Cheers

Paul

Originally posted by Mark12
I do not think the lack of a data plate will keep a good project grounded. What interest me though is what the market thinks the difference in value is of a flying Spitfire with or without an RAF serial provenance.

Without getting pernickety I thought there was only one Spitfire that didn’t ever have an RAF serial – and that couldn’t possibly be this one!
Sorry.

Flood.

From the BBC site “Historic Flying has restored 12 Spitfires since it was set up by Karel Bos out of his “passion for vintage planes” 20 years ago.”

20 years, my doesn’t time fly, looks like I may now be older than I thought I was.

BBCi Report on HFL Spitfires for sale

The BBCi report suggests quite a significant difference in the price at which the versions are being offered for sale. Wonder how much they got for the Mk IX?

Woody

Mark12

Thanks very much for that.

MOTF

Spitfire data plates have a habit of being taken off for ‘safe keeping’ and then getting lost in the intervening 10 years of restoration and ownership changes.

The CAA have in the past, on a couple of occasions, accepted my register and log as evidence of the c/n for a given RAF serial.

As no paperwork has surfaced over the past 35 years linking construction numbers with RAF serials the CAA are not in a position to query or check any submitted c/n. Indeed there is evidence, not in this country, where c/n data from one piece of aircraft stucture, recorded and identified, has turned up in another country on a flying aircraft.

I do not think the lack of a data plate will keep a good project grounded. What interests me though is what the market thinks the difference in value is of a flying Spitfire with or without an RAF serial provenance.

Mark

Without wishing to stir up “that debate” again, how are they going to get around the absence of a dataplate with the CAA (indeed does this matter much)?

As I said i dont want to stip up the debate again but I am genuinely interested in this case.

… and the evidence of a panel patch where the camera had been fitted.