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Spitfire mystery (from 2004)

What is this Spitfire?
When was it last seen?
What is it doing here?
What is that man doing far right of photo?

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By: Dan Johnson - 5th July 2011 at 23:24

…and we know a lot more about Mk IX wing armament designations than we did in 2004.

Officially there is no such thing as a Mk IXb or a Mk IXc. They were just Mk IX.

When the .5 Browning was introduced the designation Mk IXe was used.

At that time all previous Mk IX build, with the .303 Brownings, were then referred as ‘Early Mk IX’ in official documentation.

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One of my favorite threads of all time. Actually got MK12 to change his mind on something Spit related, or at least re-arrange his thinking 🙂

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By: Edgar Brooks - 5th July 2011 at 22:50

If I might be permitted to clear up one problem, no Mk.IX Spitfire was ever fitted with a wing carrying “B” armament. When the IX first appeared, it became the norm to refer to them as IXa, or IXb, but this was completely unofficial, and referred to the engine rating, i.e high or low level, and had nothing to do with the armament.
Also, at some stage, it was intended that there would only be “C” armament, and, because the outer compartment was used for the pipes carrying heat to the outer Brownings, a modification was put into practice, to cut off the outer stub fairing, leaving just a singleton for the 20mm. This has led to a lot of erroneous “recognition” of “B” wings.
When moves started, to bring the “E” armament into service, the mod was swiftly cancelled, and the second stub reappeared, albeit blanked off.
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By: Nick Snook - 5th July 2011 at 21:06

50 years of searching but not one shot of this Spitfire in colour, torquoise, has surfaced. 🙁

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It was blue, and I have one somewhere … may take me 50 years to find though! 😮

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By: Mark12 - 5th July 2011 at 20:37

That is great, many thanks!

This photo is of the other one he bought OO-ARC, not sure it has been published before?

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50 years of searching but not one shot of this Spitfire in colour, torquoise, has surfaced. 🙁

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By: Mark12 - 5th July 2011 at 20:25

…and we know a lot more about Mk IX wing armament designations than we did in 2004.

Officially there is no such thing as a Mk IXb or a Mk IXc. They were just Mk IX.

When the .5 Browning was introduced the designation Mk IXe was used.

At that time all previous Mk IX build, with the .303 Brownings, were then referred as ‘Early Mk IX’ in official documentation.

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By: Nick Snook - 5th July 2011 at 19:39

Full details of NH238, including the aforementioned image, are in the book below.

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That is great, many thanks!

This photo is of the other one he bought OO-ARC, not sure it has been published before?

Cheers

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By: Jayce - 5th July 2011 at 19:34

Dan,

At the time of the BoB film, and to the dismay of many, all participating aircraft had the stubs on the ‘chimney pot’ casting sawn and chain drilled off flush to represent early aircraft fitted with 8 Brownings. Sacrilege – 😡 So anything used in the film is suspect. When you think they later went on to represent Hurricanes with Buchons – crazy!

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Ahhh, I have an old photo of Neil Williams flying a ‘shroudless’ ‘434 and had wondered for many years why they were missing.

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By: ZRX61 - 5th July 2011 at 19:05

Does Dave Lees frequent this board, Mark 12.

And does Dave still have that amazing Morris Marina that I used see at Duxford.

Septic.

Sometimes parked next to the amazing Rover/Vought hybrid…

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206370_1820591367322_1616311739_1743580_748985_n.jpg

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By: Mark12 - 5th July 2011 at 19:03

Spitfire LF9 OO-ARE (NH238)

This is my Dad (rip)!

He bought two Spits from Coogea one of which he raced in Royal Aero Club National Air Races (OO-ARE).

He reckoned that he held the world record (unbroken), for exiting a Spitfire tout-suite!

During a race, he had problems with his ASI and decided to divert to Exeter. Those of you that have flown Spits will know that knowing your air-speed is quite important!

Having landed safely sans asi and whilst taxiing in this happened.

I have never sen this photo before and would love to know where I can get a copy or any featuring OO-ARE in these colours (pre G-MKIX).

Thanks for any help.

Nick Snook

Full details of NH238, including the aforementioned image, are in the book below.

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By: Nick Snook - 5th July 2011 at 18:51

………and this was the incident. 🙁

Fuel vapour in the leading edge exploded.

Beverley Snook the pilot – Exeter 2 June 1961

Spitfire LF9 OO-ARE (NH238)

This is my Dad (rip)!

He bought two Spits from Coogea one of which he raced in Royal Aero Club National Air Races (OO-ARE).

He reckoned that he held the world record (unbroken), for exiting a Spitfire tout-suite!

During a race, he had problems with his ASI and decided to divert to Exeter. Those of you that have flown Spits will know that knowing your air-speed is quite important!

Having landed safely sans asi and whilst taxiing in this happened.

I have never sen this photo before and would love to know where I can get a copy or any featuring OO-ARE in these colours (pre G-MKIX).

Thanks for any help.

Nick Snook

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