BoB Video questions…

Originally posted by JDK
Hah,
One reason it hasn’t been recrated is the cost of wood in Britain. Probably cheaper in gold! Canada, now… Or am I off beam, Firebird?
Cheers
James

Wood………….:eek:

Realistically, the only way you could do this in an affordable manor, would be to construct the hanger as an economic steel frame in a ‘Belfast Truss’ style, with a reproduction façade. The cladding would be relatively simple and therefore economic, but there are possible cost problems that might make the whole thing uneconomic.

Amongst these are the foundations. The original concrete hanger floor slab, foundations etc., obviously still exist and you would hope to utilise this if possible, but current design code of practice and euro code loading criteria may preclude this, which could mean you would have to dig up and redo, thereby increasing the cost to an unacceptable level. Also, the considerable brickwork required would be expensive, although this would be façade rather than structural as per the original, it is still costly, being labour intensive. This labour cost could also prevent a recreation of the wartime camo finish if that was a pre-requisite.

The large bi-fold hanger doors aren’t cheap, but I wouldn’t see this as a problem provided costs could be kept down elsewhere.

It’s certainly a feasible and realistic proposition, as long as the ‘powers that be’ didn’t go off at a tangent and employ a top name architect like Foster again, Duxford could have a good useable and aesthetically correct replacement hanger at a fraction of the cost of the £8m that the AAM cost.

Originally posted by EN830
When did that happen, have they pulled down the old Bristol art deco style building that had the shapes of various radial engines as part of the frontage, it was on the left just before these hangars if I remember right ?????:eek:

You refer to the New (1936) Filton House. Such a grand building. I am afraid it is derelict and has been for some years. Its an eye sore and in such a prominent place. As I said, our heritage counts for little. There is word it will be developed into apartments or something. It is at the top of Filton Hill. The late hangars were at the bottom of the hill on the North side of the main runway and had been the property of Rolls Royce.

Hah,
One reason it hasn’t been recrated is the cost of wood in Britain. Probably cheaper in gold! Canada, now… Or am I off beam, Firebird?
Cheers
James

Originally posted by drm075

When did that happen, have they pulled down the old Bristol art deco style building that had the shapes of various radial engines as part of the frontage, it was on the left just before these hangars if I remember right ?????:eek:

Duxfords ‘missing’ hanger

i do believe IWM Duxford already have planning permission to rebuild the hanger and have had for many years, not sure why they never built it? :confused:

Maybe they would struggle to make the building look authentic /original between the two historic hangers??? dunno…

Originally posted by drm075

Originally posted by drm075
Here are some pics I found of the hangars described above and their demolition.

Here are some pics I found of the hangars described above and their demolition.

Originally posted by Mark12
…and 3.

Yes its a shame the hanger was lost. However, we must remember that in 1968 there was no real interest in historic aircraft. And ex WW2 airfields were going two a penny. Furthermore, we have the makers of the Battle of Britain film to thank for what we have today.
On the subject of Belfast Truss hangers I have to say I am very saddened to say that three three bay hangers – built by German POWs during the Great War – were wantonly demolished a few years ago on the edge of Filton airfield to make way for a new Royal Mail sorting depot. Why were these not dismantled and reassembled somwhere else. Watch this space…because Bovis Homes have recently bought 150 acres of what remains of Filton airfield and another three bay Belfast Truss hanger’s future is in the balance. Will this be lost too? Just remember. A listed building is only listed if you are not prepared to pay the feeble fine for demolishing it. Sorry to go on about this but I just hate to see our heritage dissappear in the name of progress.

As someone who is currently engaged on airport design, actually, a visual reproduction of the original hanger, but using modern materials, would cost a mere fraction of the £8m it cost to build the AAM……….

Now that would be money better spent there……

…and 3.

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With hindsight – not a good move. :rolleyes:

Three stills from the film attached.

Mark

It certainly would not be cheap, at least not compared with the simplest available option to cover the space. In planning and conservation terms though it would be the only solution. Perhaps in these times with Lottery funding, historic site grants etc it may be possible one day.

There was a rumour many years ago that the Hanna’s wanted to rebuild the hanagar on that site, but the price was so ridiculous, it could have never been done.

It will be interesting to see what eventually gets built on that site as surely someday there will be a replacement hangar. The remaining hangars are listed building so the site of the destroyed hangar is ‘in the curtilage (spelling?) of a listed building(s)’ as the planners say and will require listed building consent as well as planning consent. Its difficult to imagine anything less than an exact replica of half of one of the existing buildings being approporiate.

And it was a single not double Belfast Truss hangar, the base is still clear there (they park a/c on it!) and DX was slated for disposal so you can’t really blame them for what they did then… (Though we do!)

Bets for when the ‘replica’ hangar with UPVC structure gets built?

Cheers

😀 No the hangar they blew up was nearer the middle of the airfield.[my wifes uncle dug the holes for the explosives]

This is a good webpage you may find something on here http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mclaydon/

Look at the outside aircraft exhibits page.

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/gdg18/battleofbritain.shtml

Another web site i found interesting.
Someone did post a photo of Duxford from the air recently,perhaps they can do so again:D