December 6, 2003 at 12:27 pm
Just a question born of curiousity. I visited the excellent Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington in October and took quite a few photos of their Gloster Javelin FAW.9 XH767 and noticed that she is starting to show some signs of wear from being kept outside.
Just wondered if anyone here knows what the Museum’s long term plans are for her?
I can see that covered space is always at a premium in any museum and the Javeling being such a large plane does not help.
Michael
By: cestrian - 18th August 2004 at 15:03
Manston’s Javelin FAW.9,XH764.Also the gate guard Canberra PR.3 WE168 .Both pics taken in 1975.Both aircraft were chopped up in March 1990
By: John C - 18th August 2004 at 14:39
I was a member of City of Norwich Aviation Museum either when she arrived or shortly after and she was in one hell of a state 🙁
John C
By: cnam100 - 18th August 2004 at 14:00
From the City of Norwich Aviation Museum, Horsham St Faith
Javelin XH767 was here between 1994 and 2001
We collected it from a farm in Somerset and accepted it on loan from its owner. The aircraft was dismantled and in very poor condition. We were told that it had to be moved as people had been living in the fuselage! Certainly I can remember picking hyperdemic needles from the fuselage.
Previous to its time at the farm, the Javelin was at Monk Farleigh, Bath where I had seen it (dismantled) in the mid 1980’s. Prior to this it had been with an ATC Squadron in Worcestershire.
One at Horsham St Faith, we re-assembled the aircraft, finding that many parts were missing. We had to have wing fixing bolts manafactured and hire lifting equipment etc.
At this point we found out that at some time at tree had fallen on top of the Javelin and had caused considerable damage to the fuselage, this had no been apparent in its dismantled state. As the aircraft was not ours, we were obviously reluctant to spend vast sums of money on top of the £2000.00 plus we had already paid for transport etc. Nevertheless we spent a lot of our time and some of our visitors money on a ‘budget’ paint job to improve the general appearance of the aircraft.
In 2000, the owner of the Javelin sadly died and his family decided to sell the aircraft to the highest bidder. We made an offer, but understand that the Javelin was sold for as many thousands of pounds as we thought that it was worth in hundreds. Our costs in time and money from limited funds were not considered. Some months after its sale ‘crash and smash’ from the RAF dismantled the Javelin and moved it to its new home.
Please do not think that damage to this Javelin was caused here (you should have seen it when we got it). We have learnt a very hard and finacialy painfull lesson in respect of accepting aircraft on loan from private owners and we urge every other smaller museum to take heed.
City of Norwich Aviation Museum
Horsham St Faith
By: Peter - 9th December 2003 at 21:47
javelin inside?
Will this aircraft eventually go into the hangar there??
By: scott c - 7th December 2003 at 21:28
Hi All
I think one of the reasons that the javelin hasnt gone inside yet is that the wheels are seized and she hasnt moved from that spot at the back of the hangar since she arrived. I was working at elvington when the javelin arrived and i know that one of the museum members was working on the nose striping off the paint and that is all that seems to have been done in the last 2 years.
Scott C
By: Flood - 6th December 2003 at 16:44
Gets the Wrecks and Relics out again…
W&R12 – Both gate guardians at RAF Manston fell foul of the one guardian policy with Canberra PR3 WE168 and Javelin FAW9 XH764 being broken up 3/90, before going to Hanningfield Metals at Stock, Essex.
Flood.
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th December 2003 at 16:44
I think I read somewhere that it was scrapped sometime in the late eighties, but I can’t be entirley certain of that.
By: sparky - 6th December 2003 at 14:30
what happened to the Javelin that was outside Manston spitfire Museum?
By: Ant.H - 6th December 2003 at 12:43
Hi Mike,
She was moved to YAM a couple of years ago from the museum at Norwich airport where she’d been on outdoor display for quite a while.I’d suggest that the majority of the wear and tear you can see in the picture is from her days at Norwich.She’s now been classed as a ‘Benchmark Airframe’ by BAPC and the plan as of about 18 months ago was to find her a permenant home indoors.
Sorry I don’t have anything more up to date than that…