British Airways JU-52 G-AFAP"Jason"

Some Junkers 52 floatplanes used in commercial transport in Norway before 9.4.1940 had german registration and swarstika on tail.Ticket fares was high,and if there was reqired emercency transport to hospital,the passengers where abandonded to nearest pier.And not to forget some good(bad) norwegian weather.

And for you Dakota guys.The germans used Dc3 in commercial traffic(Lufthansa) during the war from Norway to Germany.Some where silver coloured,and others orange

Hi Mikes Squared,
Yes, Mike J is right ‘D-AQUI’ is the ‘fake’ reg. The real reg for the aircraft today is D-CDLH. There was a D-AQUI before W.W.II, but Lufthansa can’t have the reg ‘properly’ now because the German system allocates prefixes by aircraft weight – IIRC it would have to be an airbus to be ‘D-Cxxx’.

In a beautifully tutonicaly organised way, they can’t register as D-AQUI as that’s against the rules, but they CAN paint D-AQUI in huge letters all over it so ATC (with viz contact) and ground trafic control are completely confused! Bizarre. But that’s the story.

For more info I worte it up in Warbirds Worldwide Journal 33; and there’s been quite a few reviews of the operation over the years in other mags. I’ll try and load some pics in due course. Lufthansa publisheda n English Language book about it Aviatic Verlag – Lufthansa Junkers Ju52.

The aircraft contain(ed) parts of at least 5 W.W.II machines plus a major rebuild in Germany, replacing a lot of it. New build or old, it’s great.

Cheers

Originally posted by JDK
Thanks Mike,
Indeed ‘D-AQUI’ operated by the Lufthansa heritage flight, and really registered D-CDLH was purchased from Martin Cadin, as it is an original German built Junkers (rather than a Spanish 352) which is why they bought it. It required a major restoration by Lufthansa both as it had been hard used for a long time in the Americas, but also as they had it certified for airliner flying, and the post 1930s regulations demand a lot of changes in the old girl. Still looks authentic inside, and flies great. If you get the chance, it’s brilliant.
Cheers

How many people that D-CDLH was originally registered when it was built as D-AQUI before being sent to Norway in the 1930s.
So the Large reg on it is really the correct one if you want to be pedantic about it and the small one under the tailplane is a spoof reg

Thanks Mike,
Indeed ‘D-AQUI’ operated by the Lufthansa heritage flight, and really registered D-CDLH was purchased from Martin Cadin, as it is an original German built Junkers (rather than a Spanish 352) which is why they bought it. It required a major restoration by Lufthansa both as it had been hard used for a long time in the Americas, but also as they had it certified for airliner flying, and the post 1930s regulations demand a lot of changes in the old girl. Still looks authentic inside, and flies great. If you get the chance, it’s brilliant.
Cheers

Hey, anyone know whatever happened to the ‘tante ju’ that Martin Caidin used to fly? I’m sure it’s still around somewhere, maybe even in one of these pictures of the JU-52’s posted here….I just lost track of her….would love to know if she still flies or not…..

F-AZJU at Legends. Very smart she was too.

YR

There’s an excellent article in last month’s edition of ‘The Other’ magazine about the resoration of F-AZJU by Robert Roger and his team.Excellent Database on Concorde aswell,get hold of a copy if you can.

Yes, these two.
Very nice Steve, thanks for sharing.
Cheers

Originally posted by JDK
we were lucky enough to have 2 x Ju52 at Duxford this summer I understand (I was in Canada though) at Flying Leg Ends. The newly restored French owned machine and D-AQUI.

These two….

Acording to Capt Bonsmann, the current engines on D-AQUI (thanks for clarifying Kenneth) are essentially the same as the original BMWs – sounded odd to me, but he was the Captain!

Robbielc – we were lucky enough to have 2 x Ju52 at Duxford this summer I understand (I was in Canada though) at Flying Leg Ends. The newly restored French owned machine and D-AQUI.

Lufthansa’s machine has toured the UK at least 3 times – and will probably do a tour again – I was lucky enough to get a flight from Bristol to Bournmouth – wonderful. I’m sure it’ll be over for Leg Ends again

Cheers

Kennith please sen some of those Swiss Ju52’s to the UK as they are yet to be seen here?! I beleive after its capture in Olso ‘FAP was taken over by Lufthansa rather tha the Luftwaffre because of its passenger interior. After that who knows?
Brings back memories of those CASA 352’s I saw as a kid flying round Blackbushe!

There is a pic of G-AFAP about half way down
http://users.pandora.be/Luchtoorlog_Warplanes/ju52_f.htm
just in case anyone needs a visual reference…
Remembering Iraq (!) did any of the captured aircraft at Oslo survive (i.e. is there any proof either way)?

Flood.

“D-AQUI” has P&W R-1430 engines and it actually had two-bladed props for its first couple of years on the airshow circuit. I get to see this and the Swiss Ju 52 (which have BMW engines and two-bladed propellers) regularly throughout the year here and they sound quite different.

Was the tree blade prop a wooden one?

Sorry.

More usefully, I interviewed Captain Hans Dieter Bonsmann, boss of the Lufthansa heritage setup a few years ago. Their Ju52 ‘D-AQUI’ (D-CDLH) has three bladed props. According to Capt Bonsmann, they were fitted because they were quieter than the more authentic two bladed units. I think there were other reasons for using a more modern prop as well, but in principle two – to three switching is possible. I don’t recall what engines D-AQUI has, but I think they are different to the wartime BMWs.

Hope that apologises for the pun.

Cheers

Cosford has a CASA 352.L painted as G-AFAP, so maybe they know a little more about its history.

Probably put into Luftwaffe service and lost somewhere like Italy or the Russian front. Certainly there is not much chance that it survived if it went to Russia