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World War One in Colour.

I have to say I really enjoyed the program World War One in Colour. I also think that this is a part of pioneering aviation that gets a miss mostly on these forums and on a lot of magazines and programs.

I was just commenting to someone the other day that there were medals at a sale and I asked the price and was told the ww2 medals were from £18 to about £150 and the ww1 medals were from £5 to £20 at the most. I suppose it does depend on what medal it is and who owned it but it seems to me that people glorify ww2 more than the do ww1 but it was no less important. Maybe glorify isnt the right word but you all know what I mean. Is it because ww2 is more recent and a lot of people took pictures etc or is there another reason I am missing.

Anyway back to the program. I noticed that a part of a memoir or story was read that was written by James McCudden, having heard the name before and also read about his exploits I realised I knew little about him or whether he was killed during ww1 or not so being on the CWGC at the time I did a search and here is what came up. Makes interesting reading.

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Debt of Honour Register
In Memory of

JAMES THOMAS BYFORD McCUDDEN VC, DSO and Bar, MC and Bar, MM

Major
60th Sqdn., Royal Air Force

who died on
Tuesday 9 July 1918 . Age 23 .

Citation
An extract from “The London Gazette” No. 30604, dated 29th March, 1918, records the following:- “For most conspicuous bravery, exceptional perseverance, keenness and very high devotion to duty. Captain McCudden has at the present time accounted for 54 enemy aeroplanes. Of these 42 have been definitely destroyed, 19 of them on our side of the lines. Only 12 out of the 54 have been driven out of control. On two occasions he has totally destroyed four two-seater enemy aeroplanes on the same day, and on the last occasion all four machines were destroyed in the space of 1 hour and 30 minutes. While in his present squadron he has participated in 78 offensive patrols, and in nearly every case has been the leader. On at least 30 other occasions, whilst with the same squadron, he has crossed the lines alone, either in pursuit or in quest of enemy aeroplanes. The following incidents are examples of the work he has done recently:- On the 23rd December, 1917, when leading his patrol, eight enemy aeroplanes were attacked between 2.30 p.m.. and 3.50 p.m. Of these two were shot down by Captain McCudden in our lines. On the morning of the same day he left the ground at 10.50 and encountered four enemy aeroplanes; of these he shot two down. On the 30th January, 1918, he, single-handed, attacked five enemy scouts, as a result of which two were destroyed. On this occasion he only returned home when the enemy scouts had been driven far east: his Lewis gun ammunition was all finished and the belt of his Vickers gun had broken. As a patrol leader he has at all times shown the utmost gallantry and skill, not only in the manner in which he has attacked and destroyed the enemy, but in the way he has during several aerial flights protected the newer members of his flight, thus keeping down their casualties to a minimum. This officer is considered, by the record which he has made, by his fearlessness, and by the great service which he has rendered to his country, deserving of the very highest honour.”

additional info
Croix de Guerre (France). Son of Amelia E. McCudden, of “Pitlochry,” 37, Burton Rd., Kingston-on-Thames, and the late William McCudden.

cemetery
WAVANS BRITISH CEMETERYPas de Calais, France
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Well I just thought I would just post it here for a little historical reference. Didnt realise just how decorated McCudden was.

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By: Der - 11th August 2003 at 21:54

“True World War 1 Stories” introduction by Jon E. Lewis, Robinson books 1999. Just what youre looking for. It had a big impact on me.

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By: Arthur - 11th August 2003 at 06:45

Slightly off topic: any reading tips on WW1 (preferrably first-hand trench narratives) would be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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By: EHVB - 9th August 2003 at 23:16

I am collecting militaria for almost 25 years, and prices are getting higher and higher by the month now. However, overhere in Holland and Belgium, especially the German ones are skyhigh now, even when 80% of those are fake. My German collection is more or less complete due to the fact that my late father started to collect these as soon as 1946. I am now trying to get also the 1957 version of all these medals. English ones are not so in demand, and they are much cheaper than what you pay. Bought an African Star for around 2 P.St. 3 months ago, a Croix de Guerre WW1 or 4 P.St and a CdG WW2 for 5 P.St.(all are original). I am still searching for a Vichey CdG. Much rarer but not inpossible. BW Roger

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By: Transall - 9th August 2003 at 23:01

There is also the classic “The blue Max” from 1965 or so.
Maybe I’m getting old and weak, but if Ursulla Andress proposes to run away to Switserland together, do consider it!

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By: Der - 7th August 2003 at 21:58

There’s been an awful lot of Hollywood treatment of WW2, and we’re all pretty well versed on the subject. WW1 on the other hand, just doesnt seem to attract film makers. I read a fascinating book recently, comprising of eyewitness accounts, mostly from the trenches, and it certainly opened my eyes as to the tremendous sacrifice of all those young men, . Is it in danger of being forgotten to future generations?
It might be a bit beyond the scope of this forum, but the only films I recall are the one with Peter Firth (cant remember the name, but it had impact) and “Gallipoli”.
Something along the lines of “Private Ryan” would help redress the balance-
What do you folk reckon?

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By: Snapper - 7th August 2003 at 20:11

Hmm. 1939-45 star is worth about a fiver, War medal is £8, £12 should get Africa / Italy Stars. Aircrew Europ is now around £120.

1914 star is £40 upwards, War Medal is perhaps a tenner, Victory maybe a fiver, and 1914/15 star around £10-15. Say £125 for a Territorial force war Medal, and I forget what the Mercantile Marine one goes for. With WW1 medals, they have the names / units engraved, and this alters the values considerably.

Last year I decided to get one of each WW1 and WW2 campaign medals, having recreated the sets of my Grandfather and Great Grandfather. Fascinating, fun, and easy. I need another (cheap) 1914 (Mons) Star to complete the set.

Loads of fakes about, especially the Aircrew Europe star, so caveat emptor.

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