I wonder if there are any avition archeologists around here? Some 6 years ago I joined a group in Holland, but so far I haven’t been involved in a lot of digging. We had to set up a museum and we now have the remains of aircraft as the Stirling, Halifax, Lancaster, Wellingtom, FW-190, Me-109 , Ju-88, and more on show, It is getting very complicated in Holland today to dig for wrecks. There used to be a fair share of “diggers” news in FlyPast, but this is al gone now. BW Roger
By: EHVB - 5th August 2003 at 23:29
None survived in one piece. Much was scrapped, and almost nothing preserved. Large parts of the B24 are on show in the USAF Museum and the Military Aviation Museum in Hollands. A more or less complete P47 that was raised some years ago ended up in a museum in Germany, as did the remains of a JU-88.BW Roger
By: Paul Cushion - 5th August 2003 at 23:21
What happened to the aircraft recovered in the sixties and seventies???
There were reports of Gerry Zwannenburg (sic) recovering complete aircraft at this time, complete with national markings and working guns, fully preserved equipment e.t.c.
Indeed, on one of my videos, ‘some of our airmen are no longer missing’ there is colour film which clearly shows a complete wing of a b24 with fuselage (seventies?) and all unfaded national markings in very shallow water… what happened to these aircraft???
Paul.
By: Peter - 5th August 2003 at 18:45
thanks for the update
anything recoverable for the whitly project??
By: HP57 - 5th August 2003 at 16:38
Peter,
You mean the AW Whitley that was recovered from a shallow lake or the AVRO Manchester that was recovered or the Vickers Wellington of which a wealth of wreckage was recovered in 1995, or the Halifax that caused quite some consternation when the entire bombload of 1.000 pounders were still in the wreck (not our recovery mind you but the RNethAF, but after preliminary work by our organisation) or the AVRO Lancaster which after five years of intensive work finally gave up its identity as late as june this year together with five missing crewmembers as well as the first Short Stirling to crash on Dutch soil in 1941 and which is to be recovered by a combined effort of our organisation and the Dutch AF during the first week of september, hoping to find the six missing crewmembers still missing and finally the Halifax investigation to follow this saturday in sweltering heat (am I nuts? yes I am)? Not to mention the two Lancasters, a Lib, another Halifax and two Beaufighters that collided that are to follow to name a few??
No, I know nothing about that, because I haven’t read it in FlyPast the past decade 😀 😀 :p :p
But you can have a look for yourself: www.nfla.nl (go to Aircraft Recovery Group), where you can see more projects that haven’t happend according to the number one aviation monthly.
Cheers
Fr….. ahum Cees
back to lurking:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
By: Peter - 5th August 2003 at 13:38
lots of diggin going on
Roger there is all kinds of digging going on in holland right now it is a shame that nbone of it appears in the news.
Cees, if you look at this thread please post some info on your projects….
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August 4, 2003 at 6:41 pm