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Hendon B-17

Greetings all,

I was reminded today that the B-17 in Hendon carries the markings of Rougham Airfield. I need to source some pictures of a Rougham B-17 in flight – would any of you happen to have a picture of the Hendon one, preferably in colour, please?

Thanks!

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By: futurshox - 26th November 2002 at 13:08

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>p.s. Have you tried the Hendon shop or web site for a photo
>of what you want ?

I’ve just had a look on their site, but they don’t seem to have anything online. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 26th November 2002 at 12:40

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I managed to get onto the white area last year to get some close shots of one of the Beaufighter engine nacelles. I think it all boils down to why you want to get onto the white, and whether the staff are sympathetic to your request.

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By: Arthur - 26th November 2002 at 07:47

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Roger,

That would be one of the best, if not the best, indoors-museum pic i´ve ever seen!

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By: Bluebird Mike - 25th November 2002 at 18:19

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Many years ago, I was obviously taking so many photos of a certain black bomber that one of the ever-present security guards (There never seem to be so many around there these days) came up to me and asked if I’d like to ‘step onto the white areas’ to take my pictures! Of course I said a very grateful ‘yes’, and proceeded to enjoy myself for half an hour or so, ducking all around ‘Sugar’. The best bit was, I overheard someone else asking if they could do the same, and the same man-who was keeping an eye on me of course-said no!!! Ah, those were the days-I can’t imagine that happening there these days.

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By: EHVB - 25th November 2002 at 15:52

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 25-11-02 AT 04:14 PM (GMT)]That must be it Damien. After they had seen me working, they had to chanche the rules. The enclosed shot was taken from a tripod on 100 iso film and 70 -200 mm zoom.

On the other hand, some 4 or 5 years ago in Holland in the museum in Soesterberg they started banning flash photography, starting January 1st. As a result, on December 29th we were kicked out of the museum as we were taking photographs. When I told them it was allowed (although not for long any more) it started to become very nasty as one of the guards started to jerk on my camera and tried to break of the flash. Never been there afterwards.

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By: DOUGHNUT - 25th November 2002 at 15:43

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Biggest problems I’ve had at Hendon, and others, are the ‘sunspots’ from reflection and the burnout from other spotlights in the hall. Also the non aviation junk that is so often placed around the exhibits. As for the B-17 in flight the poster is also available as a post card, if I can find it I will post it.

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p.s. Have you tried the Hendon shop or web site for a photo of what you want ?

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By: EHVB - 25th November 2002 at 15:19

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Hi Damien,

I was allowed a tripod without any problems at Hendon, some 2 years ago. Was that “luck” or is the policy diferent now? For you it won’t be a problem anyhow, just put the D60 to 400 iso , AV mode F4.0 and shoot out of the hand. The way I do it, I can get sharp pictures as long as it is 1/15th of a second, as the fill in flah compensate for small movements. BW Roger

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By: EHVB - 25th November 2002 at 14:03

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 25-11-02 AT 02:08 PM (GMT)]It is possible to get rid of the green and red lights on your photo’s at Hendon, although it needs a special photo technique. As I work on Canon camera’s, you must adapt the technique to your own camera.

Step 1: Put the camera on a tripod
Step 2: Set the AV mode to F 4.0 (for 100 iso)
step 3: Put your flash on the camera

The av mode now searches for the right time/light combination, in coordination with the flash. This means that the shot is taken as if the flash wasn’t there, and the flash only gives a small amount of flashlight, but just enough to brighten up the shadows, and get rid of (almost) all the nasty greens and reds. This works in 90% of the cases, only with eg the Vulcan or simular large objects, it might be not optimal, although a 100 times better than without this way of working. On digital, just set your white balance, but you must do this every time you photograph from another location. Shots get colourneutrol this way, but are very “cold”. BW Roger

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By: munnst - 25th November 2002 at 08:32

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You should compensate for Sodium Lighting.

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By: Ashley - 25th November 2002 at 08:17

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Futurshox…I know there is a poster available of the Hendon B-17 in flight to the UK…so maybe somewhere there is a copy of the same print available in a more userfriendly format! 🙂

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By: futurshox - 22nd November 2002 at 20:41

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>and I nearly always
>ended up with a load of green-tinged rubbish.

S’funny, I’m pretty sure mine came out pink!

Thanks for that lovely detail shot of the black Lanc in the coal cellar, covered in black cats… 😉

I had a black cat in my car earlier. Took me ten whole minutes to evict him. He was comfortable, and going Nowhere. Cats!

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By: Bluebird Mike - 22nd November 2002 at 20:26

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Y’know, I’m no photography expert-I used to go to all the shows with my fast film and long lenses, but these days I just go to watch-and likewise at Hendon, I used to try and use fast films, different exposures etc, and I nearly always ended up with a load of green-tinged rubbish. But just recently, I half-heartedly shot some pics at Hendon on supermarket 200ASA film, with my simple little Olympus compact, and they came out stunning!!!

Sometimes, you just can’t win.

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By: Snapper - 22nd November 2002 at 18:34

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Bastards. FL-W and FL-D filters on a lens, and still you get a load of old #####. A waste of time that place. Flash is only good close-up, and then only if you can get rid of reflections. Anyone have any idea about the colour temperature there? Surely not Tungsten, and it doesn’t seem daylight balanced or Sodium. Makes me angry that.

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By: Bluebird Mike - 22nd November 2002 at 18:06

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Ha, that’s funny!!!

‘Tis sadly true, the lighting in Hendon has left a lot to be desired for a long time.

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