The Chinese J-10 and Indian LCA

This is my first post here.I have been browsing through this site for a while now. I have found it quite interesting inspite of stupid posts by some . I wouldnt blame just the Chinese , Indians and Pakistanis as some do. You guys call them flames I think. But the state of Chinese and Indian aviation has caught my attention. Nothing much happening on the world scene besides the F-35. The Russians seem to be asleep. But on towards Chinese and Indian aviation.There has been a lot of mud slinging about the Chinese FC1 and the Indian LCA. But I think a better comparision would be between the Chinese J-10 and the Indian LCA. The J-10 is more of a fourth gen fighter than the FC1 and the Indians if they can get the LCA out without any more delay will have a pretty good fourth gen fighter. Neither is a world beater but both will be a good start for each nation towards building better aircraft in the future. China has a history of building aircraft but the J-10 seems to be their first decent effort in the western sense and for the Indians this is their first serious attempt with the LCA . I would appericiate comments about the two aircraft from the serious members in here. I would like pictures , technical specifications and intended capabilities of both aircraft and how they stack up against each other. I know the Pakistani members in here set store by the FC1 but would appericiate if everyone limits the discussion between the J-10 and the LCA. The FC1 dosent seem to fall in the same class of either the LCA or J-10 so would appreciate it if everyone keeps it out of this topic. I hope no one thinks I am trying to instigate matters in here. This is not a flame as you guys in here would call it. I am really interested in this topic and would like some serious posts. Thank you in advance and have a good day.