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How would you arm the FSF-1 Sea Fighter?

What kind and how many weapons can you put on the Sea Fighter?? Could anti-ship missile be placed inside the hull? How many cannons can you have on top without messing with helicopter operations? Please explain your ideas on how to arm this ship!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd March 2011 at 04:20

Griffin or Scoprion missiles. two Mk 38 RWS. Maybe ESSM in MK 56 modual?. ASW preformed by helicopters.

standard defense suite of Nulka, Nixie, and chaff.

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By: Jonesy - 2nd March 2011 at 17:25

This is an 80m long vessel that displaces 1600 tons right?. So what we are looking at is really a vessel that is at the large end of the corvette scale and bordering on, to some navies, light frigate dimensions.

The aviation capability is obviously key to the vessels operational abilities. The vessels plans indicate an elevator forward of the flight deck connecting to the mission bay below. It would be interesting to see if this was big enough to handle the 4m x 2m footprint of a Schiebel S-100 for example. Certainly if the elevator can strike an S-100 below then the mission bay would seem to offer a nice impression of a hangar deck!. I’ve long been a fan of multiple ‘light’ UAV’s operating radially just inside of the surface radar horizon to provide realtime VISIDENT over suprisingly large chunks of the local seaspace.

In terms of armament the tradeoff is going to be the amount of mission bay space up for sacrifice. The spaces aft are taken up, on the beams, with engines and uptakes and, centrally, with the RHIB dock/garage space. A VLS aft would seem to be possible only at the expense of the small boat capability. Forward of the bridge would appear to be lightly used space, but, hasn’t got a lot of hull depth to accept a ‘proper’ VLS or magazine fed weapons mounts. I’m also unsure of that position for an exposed gun mount if its going to get clobbered in a 50knt seaway with any frequency. I’m not convinced of a gun mount alongside the wheelhouse either because of the obstructed arcs and lack of space aft for a corresponding mount to cover the stern/port arc without fouling the aft landing spot.

For me, for maximum effectiveness in the opposition littoral, I think I’d want an MRR-3D class radar providing TI for 2 A35 modules amidships on either beam, for 16 VL Mica total, encroaching on one of the mission bay pallet spots per beam. Forward of the wheelhouse on the ‘mooring deck’ I’d site 4 9-pot IAI Jumper missile packs and make provision alongside the wheelhouse to mount another 4 packs in a reinforced housing should the operational environment warrant it. I’d also pay a lot of attention to my embarked softkill.

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By: giganick1 - 2nd March 2011 at 11:26

Maybe:
a hanger for MH-60
a VLS mounted in the aft section of the hanger complex
a 76mm next to structure also along side this would be a 40mm chaingun

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By: Distiller - 2nd March 2011 at 09:42

U.S. Package:
— two MQ-8B, a ScanEagle launch/recovery complex
— two Typhoon RWS with M242 on starboard/larboard sponsons
— JAGM launcher
— Stinger launcher

International Package:
— two Schiebel S-100
— two Typhoon RWS with RMK30 on starboard/larboard sponsons
— the customer’s choice: Spike-ER/NLOS, IAI Nimrod, IAI LORA, IMI Delilah, KBP Hermes, or Navator Klub-N complexes
— some networked VSHORAD launcher, like a MBDA Simbad-RC or a KBM Dzhigit

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By: J33Nelson - 2nd March 2011 at 03:53

So we are supposed to have
-A french SAM not in the US inventory
-NSM. I could see that AS a Harpoon replacement
-Two LITTLE helicopters not in the use BY the us military that are far less useful than the MH-60R in ASW and the MH-60S in utility.

Who said this was for the USA??? I was thinking export market.

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By: benroethig - 2nd March 2011 at 03:51

I wonder if when the test program is over, sea fighter could be assigned to pensacola as a replacement for the baylander.

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By: benroethig - 2nd March 2011 at 03:38

*Two Mk.46 Mod.2 30mm cannons (aft port corner & aft starboard corner)

*One 16-cell VL-MICA Starboard corner by super structure.

*Eight internal NSM launchers (four facing port & for facing starboard)

*Two AW-159 helicopters

So we are supposed to have

-A french SAM not in the US inventory
-NSM. I could see that has a Harpoon replacement
-Two ittle helicopters not in the use my the us military that are far less useful than the MH-60R in ASW and the MH-60S in utility.

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By: J33Nelson - 2nd March 2011 at 02:50

*Two Mk.46 Mod.2 30mm cannons (aft port corner & aft starboard corner)

*One 16-cell VL-MICA Starboard corner by super structure.

*Eight internal NSM launchers (four facing port & for facing starboard)

*Two AW-159 helicopters

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By: ppp - 2nd March 2011 at 01:41

How about if the RN buys a couple of these ships and equip them with Merlin ASW to replace the Nimrod?

Or not. They are ridiculously expensive. El cheapo corvette these are certainly not. Added to that, they would not be a suitable replacement for an MPA as they lack the speed/range combination of an MPA. The P8 would be a suitable MPA, but again, incredibly expensive!

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By: BlauerMax - 2nd March 2011 at 00:49

How about if the RN buys a couple of these ships and equip them with Merlin ASW to replace the Nimrod?

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By: Wanshan - 1st March 2011 at 23:20

How you would arm it would depend on what you would intend it to do.

IIRC it comes with 6x .50 cal HMGs. Personnally I wouldn’t add much more.
Perhaps add a remote controlled 25-30mm chaingun cannon next to the bridge structure. This mount could accommodate a pair of MANPADS and a pair of ATGW’s as well
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_RWS_Mk38_Mod2_Right_lg.jpg

For heavier stuff, I’m thinking along the lines of adding a spot in or on deck for a Stanflex module (which measures 3 metres (9.8 ft) in length, 3.5 metres (11 ft) in width, and 2.5 metres (8.2 ft) in height). Depending on role, this could hold a VLS (Mk48/56 > 6 cells > 12 ESSM) or something like a 76mm Oto naval gun. Better still would be an arms container.

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By: ppp - 1st March 2011 at 23:15

I would propose:

– Flat Screen TVs in a common area, extra comfortable beds, laptop and ipod connections and similar things to make it easier to have troops onboard for longer periods.

– Hangar over the first helicopter spot for long term helicopter deployment

– Sea-RAM on the hangar

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By: SpudmanWP - 1st March 2011 at 20:51

I would mount a MDG-351 at the forward/starboard corner and another in the aft/port corner. This would provide for 360 coverage against fast attack boats, anti-ship missiles, and aircraft.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/ms2/pdf/Millennium_Gun_productcard.pdf

In addition to that, I would put some type of VL missile near the forward gun. Something like JAGM with a 20-30km range.

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By: J33Nelson - 1st March 2011 at 20:23

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to the starboard of the island

The 76mm cannon would fit there or some VLS cells but I don’t think you will get both to fit in that location. I do like the idea of internal NSM launchers but there would have to be exhaust channels for the missiles.

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By: giganick1 - 1st March 2011 at 20:03

to the starboard of the island

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By: J33Nelson - 1st March 2011 at 19:58

A VLS and 76mm gun!!! Maybe add some NSM…

Where would you add these items?

With a few deck edge extensions you could add a proper SAM system. Or at least a CIWS.

What type and where?

Doesn’t look like there’s room for many helicopters though.

Two landing platforms. See pic below.

http://www.skyrocket.de/usnavy/img/fsf-1__sea_fighter__1.jpg

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By: Witcha - 1st March 2011 at 19:31

With a few deck edge extensions you could add a proper SAM system. Or at least a CIWS.

Doesn’t look like there’s room for many helicopters though.

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By: giganick1 - 1st March 2011 at 19:11

A VLS and 76mm gun!!!
Maybe add some NSM…

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