Like I stated earlier the deal to purchase Su-33’s for China. Would likely be worked out……….as its in the interests of both parties. (i.e. Russia & China)
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Negotiations for the sale of Sukhoi Su-33 carrier-capable combat aircraft to the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) are still continuing with both sides interested in coming to a final agreement, Russian industry sources have told Jane’s.
“Previous reports that these discussions are at an end or that the ‘contract has been cancelled’ are incorrect,” said a Russian source close to the programme.
“The pattern with the PLAN and Chinese industry on this subject has been the same for several years,” the source continued. “It is almost like a series of waves, you could say. They come to us with a high level of interest, asking a lot of questions, then their interest seems to fade into the background and then sometime later – the next wave – they are back with more questions again.
“It is obvious they are trying to build their version of the Su-33 or some type of carrier aeroplane, but for various reasons they cannot accomplish this on their own and whenever they reach some technological impasse they come back to us to try and learn what will get them to the next step in the design process.”
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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st March 2009 at 16:34
If the Russians restart Su-33 production, they obviously will get an upgraded one using modernized avionics like what you see on su-35, or maybe just MKK2. But either way, Mig-29K can’t compete with su-33 if the later does get Russian backing.
As for China and su-33, it probably just end up not happening. Of course as before, all the sources are still Russian, so you only get one side of the story.
I doubt the Chinese want the Mig-29K………………So, the Su-33 is surely back on the table. What the Russian Navy wants is hardly the issue……Yet, I would be surprised if they didn’t prefer a upgrade Su-33 vs a Mig-29K………..
By: tphuang - 21st March 2009 at 15:29
because there is an assembly line for MiG-29Ks that is currently running. There is none for the Su-33s. the MiG-29Ks are multi-role, modernised and are capable of all the roles that the Russian Navy could need including fleet defence, anti-shipping, recon and strike. and because the IN will operate MiG-29Ks for the next 3 decades, hence they will be able to find a partner source for funds to keep the MiG-29K modern and updated.
the only thing they’ll lack is the range on internal fuel that the Su-33 will provide. But, the Su-33 is a dedicated fleet defence fighter, and will need a lot of work to bring its avionics and weapons up to multi-role standards like the Su-35.
If the Russians restart Su-33 production, they obviously will get an upgraded one using modernized avionics like what you see on su-35, or maybe just MKK2. But either way, Mig-29K can’t compete with su-33 if the later does get Russian backing.
As for China and su-33, it probably just end up not happening. Of course as before, all the sources are still Russian, so you only get one side of the story.
By: 21Ankush - 18th March 2009 at 19:46
Its also worth noting…………Why would Russia want new built Mig-29K’s. When it could have new built Su-33’s???
because there is an assembly line for MiG-29Ks that is currently running. There is none for the Su-33s. the MiG-29Ks are multi-role, modernised and are capable of all the roles that the Russian Navy could need including fleet defence, anti-shipping, recon and strike. and because the IN will operate MiG-29Ks for the next 3 decades, hence they will be able to find a partner source for funds to keep the MiG-29K modern and updated.
the only thing they’ll lack is the range on internal fuel that the Su-33 will provide. But, the Su-33 is a dedicated fleet defence fighter, and will need a lot of work to bring its avionics and weapons up to multi-role standards like the Su-35.
By: Obi Wan Russell - 17th March 2009 at 02:45
Previous statements from the Russians indicate they want on order for at least 24 aircraft just to break even on production costs, whilst the Chinese just want a couple of aircraft for ‘trials’, ie to use as pattern aircraft for their own unlicenced production. It seems the Chinese are finding it difficult to solve the problems of navalising a land based aircraft themselves, so why don’t they just bite the bullet and order the 24 the Russians are stipulating, it’s not like they couldn’t afford them, and they would have a trials sqn in short order as well as a few pattern aircraft to keep their engineers happy.
By: Arabella-Cox - 17th March 2009 at 02:41
Its also worth noting…………Why would Russia want new built Mig-29K’s. When it could have new built Su-33’s???
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