Help,about the 21630 artillery ship

I think we (once again) hit the obscurdity of trying to use western naval clasifications (wich IMO are out of date anyway) of western naval philosophy into a russian ship of russian naval thinking.
Best classification of this vessel would be honest Gun-boat as in Russian thinking it isn’t SRK, nor MPK.

You forget that Russians actually care about littirial combat and coastal defences. Fast and nimble, and with shallow draugth these ships would be quite effective in low intensety conflicts along russian shore line, lot more usefull than some DDG-21s . Also i have understood these ships serve in border guard, and knowing Russians tendensies in that area, I only see this class a logical follow on from Pauk and Svetlak desings.

Exactly, these are border patrol patrol vessels. Certainly not FAC’s, just well armed police ships really. Maybe better compared to USCG cutters?

You forget that Russians actually care about littirial combat and coastal defences. Fast and nimble, and with shallow draugth these ships would be quite effective in low intensety conflicts along russian shore line, lot more usefull than some DDG-21s . Also i have understood these ships serve in border guard, and knowing Russians tendensies in that area, I only see this class a logical follow on from Pauk and Svetlak desings.

Indeed, these ships are comparable in size to the Pauk/Tarantul, large for a fast attack craft, but rather small to be termed “corvettes.”

Perhaps the term “artillery ship” is better translated as “gun boat?”

The class name is MAK – small artillery ship, on par with MPK and MRK (anti-sub and anti-ship). It’s designed to be the artillery/MLRS component for littoral combat (Russian term is – guarding the region of waters 🙂 ). There’s no reason to put longer ranged weapons on them as they will have to depend on their own sensors for targeting (or those of a small landing force).

IMO the ships wont be too useful. too few grad to be useful (8 iirc)… and what the ship for ? bombarding enemy coastal ? ships are too small to cross the ocean. Bombarding their own motherland ? (the special part called chechnya and such ?)… they might frozen in winter river and became sitting duck

You forget that Russians actually care about littirial combat and coastal defences. Fast and nimble, and with shallow draugth these ships would be quite effective in low intensety conflicts along russian shore line, lot more usefull than some DDG-21s . Also i have understood these ships serve in border guard, and knowing Russians tendensies in that area, I only see this class a logical follow on from Pauk and Svetlak desings.

IMO the ships wont be too useful. too few grad to be useful (8 iirc)… and what the ship for ? bombarding enemy coastal ? ships are too small to cross the ocean. Bombarding their own motherland ? (the special part called chechnya and such ?)… they might frozen in winter river and became sitting duck.

I like the idea of artillery warship but plz put it on serious platform plus…
They should put 1-2 batteries of extended range smerch….:dev2:

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http://warfare.ru/?linkid=2553&catid=271

Basic specs here

can you find some more analysis about this ship?thanks

Now i have to wright a article about the 21630 artillery ship,who can give me some analysis articles for me?? thanks sooooo!

Google “project 21630” and “ship”. Other search terms to use are: Makhachkala Astrakhan and Almaz

Go forth and do your research!

http://warfare.ru/?linkid=2553&catid=271

Basic specs here