January 23, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Colleagues
About 1 year ago I read several news about the upcoming completion of the “Ukraina”, to be conducted by Russia and Ukraine
The ship was then to be sold to India or China
Does anybody has got any news on this?
Did anything happened or is the ship still getting rust?
By: Wanshan - 27th January 2008 at 22:51
Example is meaningless without specific comparisons between how bad that ship was and what state the Ukraina is in.
Besides, reactivation means that the ship in question was initially operational, which is not the case for Ukraina.
By: Stonewall - 27th January 2008 at 21:24
Who said Russia bought it? :confused:
nobody, I think
She was left to Ukraine after the partition of the Black Sea fleet
By: dionis - 27th January 2008 at 18:19
Can you provide a reliable link that actually says that it has been bought by Russia?
Who said Russia bought it? :confused:
By: sealordlawrence - 25th January 2008 at 22:07
just to give an example of “russian reactivation ” capacity,
The destroyer Vice Admiral Kulakov
back in 2000:
and in May 2007, at Severnaya Shipyards, Saint-Petersburg:
Example is meaningless without specific comparisons between how bad that ship was and what state the Ukraina is in.
By: Stonewall - 25th January 2008 at 21:46
just to give an example of “russian reactivation ” capacity,
The destroyer Vice Admiral Kulakov
back in 2000:
and in May 2007, at Severnaya Shipyards, Saint-Petersburg:
By: sealordlawrence - 25th January 2008 at 11:24
The hull doesn’t look badly damaged from what we can see, and it’s cheaper than building a whole new cruiser.
I guess it’ll depend on how much of that growing budget the Navy will get?
Can you provide a reliable link that actually says that it has been bought by Russia?
By: BREZHNEV - 25th January 2008 at 11:21
And offcource is much cheaper than the modernization of “Ocakov” which is 38 years old Kara class cruiser. That has no sence, and is a great mistake, and weaste of money.
By: dionis - 25th January 2008 at 04:51
I’m sure that Russia is more than capable of redeeming and repainting this rather decrepit looking Soviet era hulk, but would it be worth the expense?
You really have to ponder if this ship is any better condition than the ex-Gorshkov, or even the ex-Varyag? Was the ship guarded and dehumidified all these years, or was it stripped by thieves and left to rust?
The hull doesn’t look badly damaged from what we can see, and it’s cheaper than building a whole new cruiser.
I guess it’ll depend on how much of that growing budget the Navy will get?
By: TinWing - 24th January 2008 at 18:37
They’d paid for it in gas relief as usual :dev2:
I’m sure that Russia is more than capable of redeeming and repainting this rather decrepit looking Soviet era hulk, but would it be worth the expense?
You really have to ponder if this ship is any better condition than the ex-Gorshkov, or even the ex-Varyag? Was the ship guarded and dehumidified all these years, or was it stripped by thieves and left to rust?
By: dionis - 24th January 2008 at 04:27
The Ukraina being sold to China or India is one of those storys that comes up fairly regularly, rather like the China building 3 aircraft carriers tale. The fact is that there is no evidence of either country trying to buy the ship. If she was going to be completed I would have thought that the Russian Navy would be the most likely customer.
They’d paid for it in gas relief as usual :dev2:
By: sealordlawrence - 23rd January 2008 at 16:27
Colleagues
About 1 year ago I read several news about the upcoming completion of the “Ukraina”, to be conducted by Russia and Ukraine
The ship was then to be sold to India or China
Does anybody has got any news on this?
Did anything happened or is the ship still getting rust?
The Ukraina being sold to China or India is one of those storys that comes up fairly regularly, rather like the China building 3 aircraft carriers tale. The fact is that there is no evidence of either country trying to buy the ship. If she was going to be completed I would have thought that the Russian Navy would be the most likely customer.