By: X07 - 5th May 2007 at 14:15
Sure Trackers can take of from US carriers and also CDG…FAB P16 Brazilian trackers did it between 1993 and 1998, when Minas Gerais catapult was out of order, but as you say, the deck has to be cleared. One ANA Sue once take a wire of Brazilian carrier during ARAEX exercise, but never take of the Minas Gerais, because a lack of power… a crane was finally used…
X07;)
By: Obi Wan Russell - 5th May 2007 at 11:13
Argentina’s SUE Fighters and S2T Trackers are not able to be catapulted from US carriers because they still use a bridle, and A4F Brazilian figthers too.
French Navy E2C are able to land and be catapulted from US carriers and already did it. French SEM have the same problem as Argentinians, bridle! French Rafale fighter should be able to land and be catapulted from US carriers, because French Carrier CDG is fitted with US Catapults! US E2C, C2A, F18C have already landed and be catapulted from CDG. French CDG is able to use bridle or not (so Argentina’s aircraft and Brazilian’s should be able to operate from this carrier)
X:cool:
Of course the Trackers and SEMs could probably perform free takeoffs from a US CVN if sufficient deck was cleared. Trackers used to do this from the ARA Independencia in the 60s with less powerful engines than they have now, and the prototype Sea Vixen (a much heavier and larger aircraft than a SEM) carried out unassisted takeoff from Ark Royal during trials back in the late 50s. Just saying they can do it, but don’t hold your breath for any pics anytime soon.
By: X07 - 5th May 2007 at 06:59
Argentina’s SUE Fighters and S2T Trackers are not able to be catapulted from US carriers because they still use a bridle, and A4F Brazilian figthers too.
French Navy E2C are able to land and be catapulted from US carriers and already did it. French SEM have the same problem as Argentinians, bridle! French Rafale fighter should be able to land and be catapulted from US carriers, because French Carrier CDG is fitted with US Catapults! US E2C, C2A, F18C have already landed and be catapulted from CDG. French CDG is able to use bridle or not (so Argentina’s aircraft and Brazilian’s should be able to operate from this carrier)
X:cool:
By: Super Nimrod - 5th May 2007 at 06:17
Perhaps uncle Sam charges them landing fees ? :diablo:
By: Arabella-Cox - 5th May 2007 at 05:15
It could be because the aircraft that France, Brazil and Argi`s use are smaller and lighter than those used by the US Navy, that the catapults used aboard modern US carriers are to powerful or catapult crews are not familiar with their weights ???
Just a wild guessRegards
Pioneer
The catapults can be adjusted depending on the weight of the aircraft taking off and the same also applies to the arresting gear. So, I don’t see weight as a issue……………
By: Pioneer - 5th May 2007 at 04:37
You often see French, Brazilian, and Argentinean do touch and go take off and landings with USN Aircraft Carriers. Yet, they rarely make complete arrested landings or cat shots off each others Carriers??? If, they capable why don’t they???:(
It could be because the aircraft that France, Brazil and Argi`s use are smaller and lighter than those used by the US Navy, that the catapults used aboard modern US carriers are to powerful or catapult crews are not familiar with their weights ???
Just a wild guess
Regards
Pioneer
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