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Japan: Atago class DDG

few under construction photos:

http://www.militaryspot.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=437

can anyone provide the specs of these ships and how they are better than Kongo ?

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By: KJlost - 12th April 2006 at 01:56

KD2 does not seem to have the Nixie.

I don’t see the usual deployment port no, but LPX has a pair.

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By: tarou-o - 12th April 2006 at 00:30

DSCA’s releases about Atago and three KDX-3

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/Japan%2002-25.pdf
The Government of Japan has requested a possible sale of
one MK 7 MOD 6(V) AEGIS Weapon System,
one AN/SQQ-89(V)15R Surface Ship Undersea Combat System,
one AN/UPX-29(V) Aircraft Identification Monitoring System MK XII IFF system,
one shipboard gridlock system,
one Common Data Link Management System/Joint Tactical Distribution System,
one MK 34 gun weapon system,
one Navigation Sensor System Interface,
one MK36 Decoy Launching System,
one AN/WSN-7 Ring Laser Gyro Navigator,
one AN/SQQ-121 Computer Aided Dead Reckoning Tracker.
The estimated cost is $578 million.

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/Korea%2002-17.pdf
The Republic of Korea (ROK) has requested a possible sale of
three AEGIS Shipboard Combat Systems,
three AN/UPX-29(V) Aircraft Identification Monitoring System MK XII Identification Friend or Foe systems,
three shipboard gridlock systems,
three Common Data Link Management System/Joint Tactical Distribution Systems,
three MK 34 gun weapon systems,
three Navigation Sensor System Interfaces.
The estimated cost is $1.2 billion.

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By: Sancho Pancho - 11th April 2006 at 22:33

Of course KDX-3 will carry torpedo countermeasures. It just won’t have the Black Dragon TASS installed. Stupid, but money problems. It might change once there is some breathing room in the funding, but from what I’ve heard, KDX-3 won’t have a TASS.

Atago, I haven’t a clue. I heard it won’t, but that seems odd, even if Atago is a primarily AAW ship.

KD2 does not seem to have the Nixie.

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By: KJlost - 11th April 2006 at 22:11

Of course KDX-3 will carry torpedo countermeasures. It just won’t have the Black Dragon TASS installed. Stupid, but money problems. It might change once there is some breathing room in the funding, but from what I’ve heard, KDX-3 won’t have a TASS.

Atago, I haven’t a clue. I heard it won’t, but that seems odd, even if Atago is a primarily AAW ship.

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By: Sancho Pancho - 11th April 2006 at 21:35

even KD-1 destroyer has TASS. and did you say Nixie?

Yes, I said “Nixie”. As in SLQ-25A “Nixie” torpedo countermeasures.

The Atago construction pics have two “Nixie” ports on the starboard side of the stern plate for the “Nixie” fish, but the ship appears to lack a TASS “a**hole”.

In contrast, the KD’s appear to have a TASS “a**hole” but do not have “Nixie” ports.

p.s. For you non-navy types, in the USN we referr to the TASS exit port as the “a**hole”.

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By: level - 11th April 2006 at 16:44

….the Koreans in another thread are starting to already bash it with a bunch of “KDXIII” is the superior vessel, etc., etc., etc, mickey mouse.

Is she going to carry a towed array? I saw the Nixie ports, but not a towed array “a**hole”.

even KD-1 destroyer has TASS. and did you say Nixie?

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By: WisePanda - 11th April 2006 at 16:31

a real Burke/Kongo has 90 cells, KDX111 has 128.

this creates addl room for around 38 LACM/asroc of their own design without compromising the awesome aaw firepower.

remains to be seen in Atago matches up.

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By: Sancho Pancho - 11th April 2006 at 16:05

….the Koreans in another thread are starting to already bash it with a bunch of “KDXIII” is the superior vessel, etc., etc., etc, mickey mouse.

Is she going to carry a towed array? I saw the Nixie ports, but not a towed array “a**hole”.

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By: leon - 11th April 2006 at 08:49

Is this the planned upraged Kongo class or a new class all together?

It’s a modified Kongo class with hangars for helicopters and a new mast.

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By: KJlost - 10th April 2006 at 22:36

I haven’t got a clear indication of that either. This might be like Murasame/Takanami thing where either really works. The project name, I believe, was Heisei 14 DDG, also known as Improved Kongou, or Kongou II program in military circles.

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By: J33Nelson - 10th April 2006 at 22:24

Is this the planned upraged Kongo class or a new class all together?

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By: leon - 10th April 2006 at 18:22

seems to have a ciws gun fore n aft -vs- RAM + gun in KDX3. more details on its armament would be great.

In Weyer Warships of the World – Fleet Handbook 2005/2007 there is written, that Atago will have 1 12,7 cm, 2 Phalanx, 3 2 cm, 8 Harpoon, 2 VLS with SM-2 III B, 6 32,4 cm torpedo tubes and helicopters.

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By: WisePanda - 10th April 2006 at 10:19

seems to have a ciws gun fore n aft -vs- RAM + gun in KDX3. more details on its armament would be great.

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By: leon - 10th April 2006 at 10:01

There are a lot of photos of the Atago:
http://www1.linkclub.or.jp/~chi-tan/14ddg.html

and of her sister:
http://www1.linkclub.or.jp/~chi-tan/15ddg.html

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