October 27, 2004 at 10:01 am
i have a question does russia have a carrier and if so what is the status if not is their plans for a carrier
By: Blackcat - 14th November 2004 at 21:05
Ken,
tks, the earlier link was a different one.
By: Flanker_man - 14th November 2004 at 10:21
That is interesting… and odd.
He (Andrei) goes on to add…..
“It is well known that China’s strategy for developing its naval forces provides for the the establishment of its own carrier fleet.
According to previous press reports, as far back as 1999 the Shanghai-based shipyard launched China’s first aircraft carrier (Project 9935) with a displacement of approx 48,000 tonnes.
Although it is widely believed that China is unlikely to commission its first aircraft carrier before 2010-2012, the fact that it has bought three decommissioned aircraft-carrying cruisers from Russia and Ukraine (the Kiev, Minsk and Varyag) shows that the Chinese are serious”.
Ken
By: Arabella-Cox - 14th November 2004 at 00:18
“Some experts say that another issue likely to arise during the next round of negotiations might be the acquisition of Su-33 carrier-based fighters.”
That is interesting… and odd.
By: Flanker_man - 13th November 2004 at 23:41
Apparently the deal is for 6 new Su-27KUBs and an upgrade for some of the 24 Su-27Ks (Su-33) giving the Russian navy an aicraft carrier wing of 30 Flankers and 12(?) Frogfoots.
What is the plural of Frogfoot ?? – Frogfeet ??? 🙂
Andrei Fomin writes in this months AFM (in an article about delivery of 24 Su-30MK2’s to China)……
“Some experts say that another issue likely to arise during the next round of negotiations might be the acquisition of Su-33 carrier-based fighters.”
Ken
By: Srbin - 13th November 2004 at 23:40
Why don’t they upgrade the so few Su-33s and Frogfoots on board, especially the Su-33s, it could give RuAN a small but very lethal force of multirole Flankers onboard.
By: Flanker_man - 13th November 2004 at 23:33
so hope finally this come to life
Ken,
Ur earlier link to Russian carriers is not working, can u provide the new link if u’ve changed it?
If you have it bookmarked, then it has probably changed. The link from my Su-27K still works to the carrier page – at least it does for me.
If it still doesn’t work, please let me know.
Anyway, the carrier page is at :- http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/flankers_pages/russian_carriers.html
Ken
PS – The Su-27K page is at :- http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/flankers_pages/su-27k.htm
By: SteveO - 13th November 2004 at 21:44
These carriers have different 4×3 flightdeck missile silos to the KUZNETSOV CLASS which has 2×6
By: Blackcat - 13th November 2004 at 21:32
so hope finally this come to life
Ken,
Ur earlier link to Russian carriers is not working, can u provide the new link if u’ve changed it?
By: SteveO - 13th November 2004 at 21:25
i have a question does russia have a carrier and if so what is the status if not is their plans for a carrier
Some info here
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/
By: Severodvinsk - 13th November 2004 at 19:27
hmm, did they ever have 24 of these built? I supposed they only had like 4 Su-25UTGs. Anyone has the total number of these craft built?
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th November 2004 at 18:45
Apparently the deal is for 6 new Su-27KUBs and an upgrade for some of the 24 Su-27Ks (Su-33) giving the Russian navy an aicraft carrier wing of 30 Flankers and 12(?) Frogfoots.
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th November 2004 at 14:37
Stop getting me excited !!! 😡
No… lol
I got this link from a Russian who has been talking about this order for 10-20 (can’t remember exactly) Su-27KUBs for a long time now. This is apparently the first of the lot. I’ll let you know if I find a more thorough article.
By: Flanker_man - 12th November 2004 at 12:50
More Flankers (Su-27KUB) are now being delivered to the Russian navy.
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5055901&startrow=1&date=2004-11-05&do_alert=0
I’m sorry….. I have read the link three times now – and nowhere does it say that ‘More Flankers’ are being delivered.
What it does say is that the sole prototype Su-27KUB will be practicing takeoffs and landings (which it has done before from Kuznetsov!!!) – ‘in real conditions’ (whatever that means) ??
Stop getting me excited !!! 😡
Ken
By: Severodvinsk - 12th November 2004 at 09:30
Yes for 2017 I heard. Yet a month later, Kuroyedov denied every report on that and said they would be going for littoral warfare, new frigates and corvettes. Now he’s saying again a carrier after 2010? I’d say kick that man’s butt. What a policy they have, changing every two weeks..
By: Vympel - 12th November 2004 at 08:23
The Russian Navy is planning a new aircraft carrier after 2010.
By: dionis - 12th November 2004 at 07:59
well whadya know 🙂
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th November 2004 at 07:54
More Flankers (Su-27KUB) are now being delivered to the Russian navy.
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5055901&startrow=1&date=2004-11-05&do_alert=0
By: dionis - 11th November 2004 at 02:34
that’s what I’m saying 😛
By: SOC - 10th November 2004 at 19:52
Neither Varyag nor Kuznetsov are nuclear-powered, only Ul’yanovsk.
By: dionis - 10th November 2004 at 19:42
Well, atleast the nuclear reactor(s) woulda worked for a while.. 😛