January 19, 2013 at 8:30 am
Long rumoured and finally an image ! … looks larger and even if similar, substantially different to a Ch-31/YJ-91 !!
Deino
By: Distiller - 17th February 2013 at 09:52
That shape is considerably larger than a Kh-31, more the size of a P-270.
Would not pay too much attention, total mock-up monster.
But I’d say too small for a 400km, Mach 4 object.
By: Blitzo - 23rd January 2013 at 21:37
^ Apparently YJ-12 is an exclusively air launched weapon. Rumours are abound of a heavier surface/ship launched “YJ-18” with more capable specs of Mach 5 and 500 km that may or not be related to YJ-12.
I don’t even know anymore. Although it would make some sense to make your air launched AShM a little lighter so it can carry more of them vs hauling a single 3 ton monster.
By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd January 2013 at 18:36
Brahmos is exclusively ground-launched (adding weight in the shape of a booster and reducing range) so far and subject to MTCR treaty provisions (capping range at 300km for export customers, no matter what the airframe/propulsion are actually capable of). There are indications that the domestic Russian version has a range in excess of 400km (still without air launch) – also what is the warhead weight of the YJ-12? Brahmos carries a rather hefty 300kg payload.
By: Blitzo - 23rd January 2013 at 08:47
I’ve learned to become skeptical to some of Huitong’s entries just as much as others.
Although YJ-12 is somewhat smaller than say, Brahmos, and it can achieve the same speed and range (depending on profile) so that satisfies the idea that elapsed time and advancements in propulsion, propellant, aerodynamics etc would lead to similar performance in a smaller package.
By: totoro - 23rd January 2013 at 08:16
all that is pure speculation, just as 400 km at mach 4 was. J16 wasn’t mentioned because the author doesn’t expect that to become PLAN’s platform. (same reason why h6k wasn’t mentioned) Also, and somewhat erronously, that is why the author put one missile under j15, as he fears 3 tons of payload would be too much for a carrier borne j15. The school of thought that knows a flanker with 3-4 tons of payload and 6-7 tons of fuel would still normally take off from Liaoning would, of course, disagree.
mach 3 and 300 km certainly looks much more realistic, at least to people who don’t think it is a 7 meter long, half a meter in diameter behemoth. Larger than kh31, yes, but not by a huge margin.
By: Blitzo - 23rd January 2013 at 03:05
Hui Tong puts it between Kh-31 and Kh-41 in terms of size. Mach 2.5 – 3.5, 150 – 300 km depending on flight profile.
So its less than the early speculation of 400 km @ Mach 4, but high time this thing has showed up. Otherwise PLAN ASCM were limited to YJ-62, YJ-83 series.
Interesting that he puts that as the specs. It was heavily circulated that YJ-12 was known as the “4, 4” missile, as in Mach 4 speed and 400 km range… Hmmmmm. I also doubt that J-15 can only carry one when JH-7B can carry two, even though the flanker is a far better strike platform. Interesting that he doesn’t mention J-16 either, I’d imagine J-16/15 should’ve at least be able to carry three.
By: QuantumFX - 23rd January 2013 at 02:44
Hui Tong puts it between Kh-31 and Kh-41 in terms of size. Mach 2.5 – 3.5, 150 – 300 km depending on flight profile.
So its less than the early speculation of 400 km @ Mach 4, but high time this thing has showed up. Otherwise PLAN ASCM were limited to YJ-62, YJ-83 series.
By: Deino - 20th January 2013 at 09:22
Fiberglass and foam mockup. 😡
Why do You think so ??
A new one ….:rolleyes:
By: Blitzo - 19th January 2013 at 23:12
Fiberglass and foam mockup. 😡
Am curious, what is the giveaway?
By: mack8 - 19th January 2013 at 21:16
So? They always have mock-ups at exhibitions or handling trials etc. Can’t wait to see it on a JH-7B soon. Go China!:D
By: djcross - 19th January 2013 at 15:02
Fiberglass and foam mockup. 😡