I was browsing the British Army site and found a picture of this vehicle.
Its a Stormer carrying the Starstreak missile. This missile seems to be rated very highly in regards to performance and ability. Is this missile mounted on any other platforms. I think the guidance is by laser but when looking at the stormer i was trying to think where the tracker is that would let the people in the vehicle know an aircraft was incoming? I presume to laser designator is attached to the vehicle somewhere. Will this launcher be limited to 1 target at a time as it would need more than 1 laser to paint the target? I’m not great on knowledge about how this system works.
The thing that got me thinking was that this is a man portable low altitude system. But seeing as how it’s mounted on a vehicle could it not be made with a longer range as it doesn’t matter so much about the weight?
I was trying to get some information about the vehicle. Its an Alvis Stormer but i couldn’t find much more than that. I believe it a development on the CVT family but the British Army don’t have it on there website. Anyone have info on it.
This got me looking into the other Air defence system the Army uses the Rapier. The info on the British Army site is again limited and i presume incorrect. It says the Missile range 500 m (max.) to 8 m (min.) I’m guessing that a missile that is over 2 metres long has a range of more than 500 meters. The rapier looks like a mean machine. Is this carried on a vehicle like the starstreak? When reading about the Falklands i believe it takes a while to set up the system. I’m not sure if this is still required and if it is i guess it can’t be ready to fire off the back of a moving vehicle. The Rapier system has been exported to quite a few countries so it must be quite good at it’s job. The Rapier looks like something a kid would make in the garden. It’s like a dustbin with an old sky dish stuck beside it, mounted on a go-kart, with a few of dad’s garden hoe’s and brushes stuck to the side.
I presume this is the modern rapier which looks much meaner.
I know the UK was using Phalanx and radar’s on land to defend bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. Were they also using the starstreak or rapier system? I think the main purpose of these base defences was from motor attack and other projectiles. Does anyone have any pictures of the systems used to defend bases in Iraq and Afghanistan?
By: AE90 - 1st December 2009 at 21:49
For the rapier and starstreak replacements this looks like it will be far off in the future. CAMM is 1 option but i guess we will just wait and see.
CAMM IS to replace Rapier and a couple of years before it sees navy service too IIRC
By: Grim901 - 1st December 2009 at 18:12
Does the UK require any longer range Air defence missiles in the future? Will there be a purchase of Aster land missile system? This is an area the UK doesn’t seem to bother with. After blood hound and Thunder bird were retired there hasn’t been a long range replacement. As Ballistic missiles become more of a threat what will the UK solution be. Either to rely on the americans or to purchase a system like Arrow or patriot. We all know how good patriot is at shooting down aircraft! it made mincemeat of a tornado. Maybe they will end up with the Aster system and develop it into a better system. I am of the opinion that he UK doesn’t like long range SAM’s as it can’t be used as a warning shot.
For the rapier and starstreak replacements this looks like it will be far off in the future. CAMM is 1 option but i guess we will just wait and see.
I’d like to see SAMP/T in UK service with air defence and ABM missiles. It’d make sense for deploying to the middle East as there are plenty of ballistic missiles about in the hands of potential enemies (not that I see us in another war over there right now).
The UK itself (the country) doesn’t really need them for now, and if it did it’d make more sense just to use/upgrade buy more T45’s and alter them for ABM tasks too.
By: F35b - 1st December 2009 at 16:24
Does the UK require any longer range Air defence missiles in the future? Will there be a purchase of Aster land missile system? This is an area the UK doesn’t seem to bother with. After blood hound and Thunder bird were retired there hasn’t been a long range replacement. As Ballistic missiles become more of a threat what will the UK solution be. Either to rely on the americans or to purchase a system like Arrow or patriot. We all know how good patriot is at shooting down aircraft! it made mincemeat of a tornado. Maybe they will end up with the Aster system and develop it into a better system. I am of the opinion that he UK doesn’t like long range SAM’s as it can’t be used as a warning shot.
For the rapier and starstreak replacements this looks like it will be far off in the future. CAMM is 1 option but i guess we will just wait and see.
By: John1964 - 25th November 2009 at 22:43
Details on the Stormer:
http://www.military-today.com/apc/stormer.htm
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvis_Stormer
Regards
By: swerve - 25th November 2009 at 17:54
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This got me looking into the other Air defence system the Army uses the Rapier. The info on the British Army site is again limited and i presume incorrect. It says the Missile range 500 m (max.) to 8 m (min.) I’m guessing that a missile that is over 2 metres long has a range of more than 500 meters.
I suspect that’s 500 metres minimum and 8 kilometres maximum, & someone’s typed rather badly when filling in details on the army site.
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November 25, 2009 at 5:15 pm