GLONASS by 2010

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/glonass.htm

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/uragan.html

Galileo is a purely civilian effort, so a military signal is unlikely (probably a good thing, considering China’s participation). GLONASS has seen two generations of operational spacecraft aswell, the original GLONASS that was intended almost exclusively for military use (although it seems it did provide civilian services later) and GLONASS-M which was designed to allow for civilian uses from the outset. Currently there is a mix of GLONASS and a few GLONASS-M in orbit.

“Fully deployed” refers to a complete constellation with the required number of satellites to provide global coverage. A third generation (GLONASS-K) is planned to be launched soon, with financial support and a percentage of the launch services being provided by India. GLONASS-K is pretty neat too, very accurate and light (though not quite as light as Galileo, but this might be due to additional military equipment) which will reduce the cost of maintaining a full constellation due to smaller launch costs and/or the ability to launch several satellites at a time.

Bound to be expensive??? Get me another PGM for 18,000 $ A PEICE

JDAM has both GPS and INS support units on a bomb . It is bound to be expensive !

Spend a little more and get into contract with Galileo usage .

First EU needs to get the military freq. res. thing sorted out , and then come up with a mass production line for GPS weapons to make them affordable , set up an industrial base of GPS guided muntions where demand feeds supply/dev. , if you want to compare to economies of scale the US demand for JDAM GPS weaponry is something like 3000 JDAM kits produced every month ( thats a hundered every day) , get that scale and the price of a JDAM falls to 18,000 $ and the circle goes on and on.

I read where Russia will hqve fully deployed its GLONASS satellite system by 2010. This will provide GPS accuracy for a whole new generation of Russian-made smart weapons. I have a question though.. If 2 countries are at war, neither of which are the US or Russia and both employ weapons utilizing GLONASS and or GPS, can they legitimately go after and target the satellites (assuming again they have some sort of ASAT capability) or would that be considered an act of war against Russia and the US?

Spend a little more and get into contract with Galileo usage . EU is less political than US and Russia in its dealings . A handsome deal in euros will mean uninterrupted usage and even at lower level some EU companies can be hired for satellite images even if Russia and US try to block their SATs usages .

The only countries able to bring down satellites are those capable of putting them up there in the first place. Not a long list. Would make more sense to make an offer to those running the satelltes to turn them off or use jammers than try to shoot down such a satellite.

Mabie even otherwise there arent many nations that can succesfully even dream about destroying a satelite out of space , specially the 3rd gen. GPS satelites which have top secret defensive mechanism both from physical attack and E Attack , the best thing they could try is to jam the freq. or something like the Iraqi’s did ( however a vast majority of their GPS jammers were taken out by the cheap JDAM) and keep their fingures crossed . The problem is that other then russia maybe no one on the face of this earth can even dream about jamming to the extent that the US’s anti jamming assets cant deal with it , once those bloody jammers are located , targeted and destroyed they are pretty useless , furthermore the US has other PGM’s , dual mode weapons that can well destroy pretty much any target that a GPS guided weapon can , it’ll just be more expensive .

if it means winning the war and jjust maybe saving your country, maybe its a risk you have to take..

Once you take out a US defence (dual use) sat. or a russian GLONAAS you wont be in a position to WIN anything , better run and hide from B-2’s and F-22A’s or su-34’s comming at you.

maybe after you win you can sell off youropponent’s assets to pay for the satellites you destroyed.

Like either US or russia is going to be waving the “what the heck” flag at the UN , most likely cource of action would be to destroy the damn military infrastructure by scores of tomahawks , JASSM’s LGB’s etc etc and remove them from doing anything stupid in the future. Furthermore we keep thinking this is one sat. but these are dozens ( i think 22+ just with the 3rd gen. going up) and most of the info on them and how they operate inside a network is classified , so good luck to either one of the dinky little countries that goes to war and tries to destroy them . Thinking a bit hard , any country that has the might and capability to destroy a satelite in space pretty much has enough power to destroy its threats .

well do you have a source?? if its 2010 then it will be about the time US starts sending up its 3rd generations GPS targetting satelites .

Here’s the source:
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/Russia_to_Deploy_24-satellite_Navigation_System_by_2010_20060831.php

I agree there would be serious consequences attacking a GLONASS or GPS satellite.. still, it depends on what’s at stake.. if it means winning the war and jjust maybe saving your country, maybe its a risk you have to take.. maybe after you win you can sell off youropponent’s assets to pay for the satellites you destroyed.

after and target the satellites (assuming again they have some sort of ASAT capability) or would that be considered an act of war against Russia and the US?

They could technically do it but it would be act of stupidity on their part , because then they’d have to bear the full grunt of the US or russian force which is probably the least desired thing on this earth.

well do you have a source?? if its 2010 then it will be about the time US starts sending up its 3rd generations GPS targetting satelites .