November 12, 2004 at 5:13 pm
In Jane’s M&R, there are 2 tidbits of information;
-They’ve extended the range of the Qassam-2/3? to 14km.
-They’re working on a new anti-aircraft missile to target Israeli UAVs. Details are sktechy.
By: alexz33 - 17th November 2004 at 14:22
Question, couldnt they obtain SA-7s if they could smuggle weapons regularly?
It would not be a first, the IRA was involved in the plan to build surface to air missiles with IR homing in the 1980s. I think it had to do with Irish-American’s as they had access to the motors.
They can and they try to obtain SA-7s and longer range rockets (not home made) via the tunnels and via the sea.
Reffer to the Karin A capture
www1.idf.il/SIP_STORAGE/DOVER/files/8/34488.wmv
By: koxinga - 17th November 2004 at 09:48
Question, couldnt they obtain SA-7s if they could smuggle weapons regularly?
It would not be a first, the IRA was involved in the plan to build surface to air missiles with IR homing in the 1980s. I think it had to do with Irish-American’s as they had access to the motors.
By: fabe - 17th November 2004 at 07:46
the first one looks more like a mortar to me
By: alexz33 - 17th November 2004 at 05:14
Preparing Qassem
http://www1.idf.il/SIP_STORAGE/DOVER/files/7/33557.wmv
Qassem 1 fired
http://www1.idf.il/SIP_STORAGE/DOVER/files/1/33551.wmv
Qassem 2 fired
http://www1.idf.il/SIP_STORAGE/DOVER/files/1/33551.wmv
By: djnik - 15th November 2004 at 20:48
X-4 was maybe used.YOu can never be too sure.MAybe it was unsucessfull.It was fitted to Fw-190 and JU-88 for testing purposes.
By: Distiller - 15th November 2004 at 17:32
no I think it’s a Kramer x-4 one of the first air to air missiles. I saw it some time ago in the German Museum. one of those 1946 projects. It was wire guided and I think was rotating during flight.
Quite right, a Ruhrstahl X-4. Developed in 1944, no secure information about operation use, which could have taken place during the last weeks of the war. Who knows.
PS: That was a joke! 😀
By: fabe - 15th November 2004 at 17:05
no I think it’s a Kramer x-4 one of the first air to air missiles. I saw it some time ago in the German Museum. one of those 1946 projects. It was wire guided and I think was rotating during flight.
By: seahawk - 15th November 2004 at 16:58
Looks like an ATGM to me
By: fabe - 15th November 2004 at 12:22
that’s a Kramer X-4 isn’t it?
By: Distiller - 15th November 2004 at 12:16
An here is some super-secret video footage of a test run …

plus an also super-secret cutaway …

By: Canpark - 15th November 2004 at 05:38
How interesting, while Hizbullah is using UAVs on Israel, Hamas is developing anti-aircraft missiles.
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th November 2004 at 12:01
CLOS is OK for targets heading directly toward you, but quite tricky for targets travelling at any other angle to you. Also the lack of success against Israeli aircraft suggests either these weapon are scarce or inaccurate or both.
By: matt - 13th November 2004 at 11:42
i got told fertilizers have a agent mixed in now a days so it isnt so easy to convert to an explosive.
By: phrozenflame - 13th November 2004 at 10:21
What exactly are they using for the rocket propellant? Are these smuggled in, or made in the workshops in the Gaza Strip?
I Heard in some news some time back they use fertilizers as a feul…
By: seahawk - 12th November 2004 at 19:22
Interstingly a CLOS missile seems more usefull as a ATGM, then a SAM to me. Or nice to attack bunker and other fixed stuff.
By: google - 12th November 2004 at 18:14
The History of the Qassam rocket.
First Qassam-1; range of 1km. Later increased to 9km within months.
Now get this;
Although media reports tend to describe all home-made Palestinian rockets fired against Israel as Qassams, there is growing evidence that several Palestinian organisations have developed rockets, each of which has it own designation. Rockets developed and built by Hamas are named Qassam, while the equivalent weapon created by Islamic Jihad is the Al-Quds. The Tanzim faction of Fatah has developed a rocket called Seraya.
Qassam-2/3; 9-14km
Even newer Qassam-4; 17km.
What exactly are they using for the rocket propellant? Are these smuggled in, or made in the workshops in the Gaza Strip?
Also,
The Fatah organisation has announced the development of a new artillery rocket designated Kafah (‘struggle’). Similar in concept to the Qassam, the Kafah is reported to have been used in action for the first time on 3 October 2004, when it was fired against the Israeli town of Netzarim. This has not been independently confirmed.
By: google - 12th November 2004 at 18:11
It would be quite an achievement considering their rudimentary manufacturing base.
Missile body is likely to be based on the Qassam-1, and guidance to be “manually steered command to line-of-sight (CLOS) weapon based on a radio command link. “
By: seahawk - 12th November 2004 at 17:22
Home made SA-7s ?ß Now that would be an achievement