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New Camera Advice wanted.

My old Fuji 602s has a just spot on the inside of the lense and will cost around £125 for repair which for a three year old camera seems a little bit high, So i have decide its time to move on to a new camera.

I can afford up to or around £300 so i am not talking Digital SLR sadly, What i want is something that can photo moving Aircraft much like the 602 could(with a adaptor lense), I have thought about two different camera’s so far and would like some advice.

The two camera’s are,
1)Fuji Finepix S5600 (seems to me a updated 602, Are they any good)
2)Panasonic Lumix DMC-F27(i know very little about it other than it has 12X Zoom)

Can anyone think of any other camera’s in this sort of range?
Thank you for any help you can give me.

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By: RobAnt - 30th July 2006 at 11:02

You’ll find the TCON 17 at Amazon UK – Click Here.

mmm – not sure about making my own adapter tube, doesn’t it have to be exactly the right length, otherwise surely a teleconverter or wide angle lens would be out of focus, in the wrong place? It probably doesn’t matter for filters, so much. But I’m not sure.

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By: grounded - 30th July 2006 at 09:46

new camera advice wanted

Hi feller’s Interesting thread, I have the Fuji602z. Instead of paying through the nose for an adapter I made one by cutting down a metal Minolta lens hood and gluing a 55 mm lens thread from a broken filter on the front end (it
required a bit of a spacer which I cut from a piece of thick perspex) Cost, an hours work with a hack saw and file. Now I can use any 55mm filter, plus Cokin products. It is a permanent fixture to protect that fragile lens. I have tried to find the Olympus T con 😎 1×7, I surmise this is a screw in auxiliary lens, I would like the extra zoom, in fact I wish now that I had waited for the Fuji 9500, it seems to me to be the perfect camera without going D S L R. 😉 😉 😉

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By: duxfordhawk - 25th July 2006 at 05:38

Thanks for the tips. I have been using the sports setting mainly too, but without the addition of a converter lens it’s just too far away most of the time to get decent pictures. I am going to go along to London City Airport and play around with the settings a bit to see what I can come up with.

Certainly interested in some sort of deal if you are looking to move them on. Drop me a line and we’ll see what we can work out.

Have sent you a private message mate.

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By: Spitfire74 - 24th July 2006 at 23:27

Thanks for the tips. I have been using the sports setting mainly too, but without the addition of a converter lens it’s just too far away most of the time to get decent pictures. I am going to go along to London City Airport and play around with the settings a bit to see what I can come up with.

Certainly interested in some sort of deal if you are looking to move them on. Drop me a line and we’ll see what we can work out.

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By: duxfordhawk - 24th July 2006 at 16:50

As other Guys have mentioned the Adapter Lens is TL-FX9B i have two Converter rings too, AR-FX9, If your intrested maybe we can come to some sort of a deal.
As to Settings at first i used the Sports function on the camera , It will get you some quiet good results with a bit of practice, After that just try varying your settings i mainly toyed with shutter speeds, Its trial and error really(Well for me it is anyway)

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By: RobAnt - 24th July 2006 at 12:28

Well, the TCON-17 is generally considered better and is slightly cheaper, which is why I mentioned it.

Only you can decide whether or not to continue any longer with the 602 – if it’s working okay you might find it a useful 2nd camera in future, along with anything else you might consider.

I have an S5600, which I upgraded from an S5000 – I still have the S5000, and may now use that sans teleconverter in future.

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By: Spitfire74 - 24th July 2006 at 11:18

Yeah you are right about the price.. I have seen that adapter at varying prices up to about 45 quid. The teleconverter lens also seems to be pretty difficult to get hold of as most of the sites I have checked show it as discontinued and even Fuji’s site doesn’t list it. Best I have seen so far is on E-bay for 65 quid.

You reckon it might be a bit of a waste paying that for one then? I know the 602 is getting on but I was hoping it would see me through for a while longer.

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By: RobAnt - 24th July 2006 at 01:30

The TL-FX9 should work, but you would also need an adapter, because the lens extends beyond the body of your camera.

Look at this review for the S5000 – http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_s5000-review/ – it has the same basic body, but in the second photo you can clearly see that it has a Lens Adapter Ring fitted which is included in the box with the S5000.

The part number you would need is AR-FX9 – without this you cannot use any teleconverter – wide or otherwise. It provides a 55mm thread. Check it is included with the lens.

Also, I strongly recommend alternative Teleconverter lenses, such as the TCON-17, I think it’s an Olympus

However, your S602 is getting long in the tooth now it is (shock horror) about 4 years old, or so – just an observation, not a criticism.

Be careful, I’ve seen prices as high as £37 for this piece of cheap plastic, and only as low as £25. For a 55mm extension tube it is somewhat highly priced.

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By: Spitfire74 - 23rd July 2006 at 23:50

I was interested to note that you have the Fuji 602 as I have that too (S602Zoom which I asume is what you are referring to).

You mentioned that you get good shots of aircraft in flight using an adapter…. could you give me some advice as to what this adapter is as I have recently started to try getting some aircraft pictures but get nowhere near the sort of shots I see on this forum. Is the adapter the TL-FX9 by any chance?

Any advice you could give to me on the settings you use would also be very much appreciated. I have had the camera for a few years but never really used it to it’s potential and am only just now trying to get the most out of it.

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By: duxfordhawk - 21st July 2006 at 12:26

I have decided to wait a bit before buying a new camera now, Feel like my arm has been chopped off without one but by waiting i can put a bit more cash away and maybe buy something like the Samsung Pro 815 or maybe a lower priced SLR, Never used a SLR of any form so will be a new experience for me.

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By: Papa Lima - 20th July 2006 at 17:00

I am pleased as Punch with my new Canon EOS 350D, which does everything I have ever wanted from a camera – but I took my “old” Minolta Dimage A1 to the Aeroseum today for static indoor shots (on the other Forum), as it has a faster lens, and the results were also excellent (using a unipod for support).
It seems that half the trick lies in the camera user, hence I practice as much as possible. I am finding that I need to use Photoshop much less nowadays to correct my faults!

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By: APC104 - 10th July 2006 at 19:19

I’m a Nikon D70s user, but for the ‘Rambo’ holiday destinations I take my Kodak 6940 – I’ve taken pictures in all climates, at alititude, in the dark, from boats, and of course – of flying things – can’t fault the thing.

Cheap as chips… but a quality camera!

Don’t be taken in by the ‘Canon’ crowd… simply propoganda from ‘read the marketing’ gang 😀

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By: Carpetbagger - 10th July 2006 at 13:28

No one here has mentioned the offerings from Canon.
I have an S2 IS which has 5mp and a 12x optical zoom.
I’ve used it at a few shows now so still learning it really but with static stuff it’s great, just in the air’s a problem, but more than likely that’s just me.

This model is now replaced by the S3 IS which is basically the same but has 6mp and is black instead of silver.

Or am I missing something anti-Canon here?

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By: duxfordhawk - 5th July 2006 at 19:10

Cracking little camera the 2800Z. Has its drawbacks, as Duxfordhawk says, but when I bouight the S7000 a couple of years back I decided to hang on to the 2800Z ‘cos of its convenience and size. As I write I’ve lent it to number one son (15) for a geography field trip – if it gets dropped down a mountain he’s in BIG trouble 😮

William

I agree with you about its size and its easy to use as well, I have done plenty of static shots on it this year and feel impressed with them, Even in the rain of Duxford it did pretty well, Although seemed to lose a bit on the Red of the Gnat in the low light,The 602 did similar in the rain in the past. I was using it for a bit before buying S602 and to be fair its out lived the 602 as well, Its not ment to do high speed photo’s so i am not crititising it on that.
I hope your one survives the Mountain trip, Think it will they built like Brick Sh*t Houses, My flat mates one is scratched and has had a few knocks and still works fine. I was just just unlucky with the 602, Mind you if someone who knows what they are doing took it apart even its problem can be solved.

I think i have decided on the Panasonic now so roll on payday 😀 .

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By: Scouse - 5th July 2006 at 18:19

I will be taking my flatmates Camera instead thats a Fuji Finepix 2800Zoom, I won’t say its got shutter lag but you set up your shot for the Aircraft on its First pass and if your lucky the camera will take the photo by the sime the Aircraft is on its Second pass 😀 , Needless to say i will only be doing static shots..

Cracking little camera the 2800Z. Has its drawbacks, as Duxfordhawk says, but when I bouight the S7000 a couple of years back I decided to hang on to the 2800Z ‘cos of its convenience and size. As I write I’ve lent it to number one son (15) for a geography field trip – if it gets dropped down a mountain he’s in BIG trouble 😮

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By: PMN - 4th July 2006 at 21:35

I’d highly recommend the Kodak Z740. It’s a DSLR and I got mine for 170 pounds with a 256mb memory card

I have to say as a 350D owner, that really doesn’t look even remotely like a DSLR, although I’m sure it’s a good camera!

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By: RobAnt - 4th July 2006 at 19:04

Fuji Finepix 2800Zoom,

It’s not that bad, see my 2002/2003 photos – I’m actually quite proud of the Kemble shots I managed with my 2800Zoom. See here {click}

I’m desperately saving to try and make Yeovilton on Saturday and (touch wood) Culdrose on Wednesday next.

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By: duxfordhawk - 4th July 2006 at 17:48

Thanks for all the advice you guy have given me so far, I’m quiet sad that it will cost so much to repair my S602 because up until this point i have got some pretty good results with it, Somehow a small amount of water of something managed to get inside the lense and has left a “Dust spot” that shows up like anything when you use the camera outside(inside its barely noticable.
I am planning a DSLR at some point but not for a couple of years, I am not sure i can warrant the spending of more than £300 on any equipment at the moment as i’m not that skilled with a camera really(nor does the bank balance look too healthy), I don’t really trust E-***
for purchases like this so what i want is a sort of Bridging Camera to practice a bit more on and hopefully get some good results like the S602 did. The panasonic seems to have a lot of functions so maybe if shutter lag not to bad it will be ideal.

The other annoying thing is i won’t be able to buy the camera until after Legends and RIAT so loads of photo oppitunities missed there, I will be taking my flatmates Camera instead thats a Fuji Finepix 2800Zoom, I won’t say its got shutter lag but you set up your shot for the Aircraft on its First pass and if your lucky the camera will take the photo by the time the Aircraft is on its Second pass 😀 , Needless to say i will only be doing static shots.

If anyone is going to Legends and fancies meeting me PM me as i plan to go alone on the Sunday.

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By: Scouse - 3rd July 2006 at 22:40

Further to what RobAnt has said, the succesor to the Fuji 602 is the S7000. I’ve got one and am happy with it.
It’s just being phased out in favour of the S9500. Manual zoom, which means it springs into life a lot quicker and I’ve seen some rave reviews. I’ve had a fiddle with one in Jessops and I must admit I’m tempted, although as and when I upgrade it’ll prpobably be a Nikon D50 or D70 as I’ve already got some Nikon AF lenses for the F60.
S9500 comes in now about £300-£350 – maybe a touch ahead of your budget, but not much. Run it through Google and see what comes up.

Best of luck

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By: RobAnt - 3rd July 2006 at 22:17

I can afford up to or around £300 so i am not talking Digital SLR sadly, What i want is something that can photo moving Aircraft much like the 602 could(with a adaptor lense), I have thought about two different camera’s so far and would like some advice.

The two camera’s are,
1)Fuji Finepix S5600 (seems to me a updated 602, Are they any good).

The S5600 is an updated S5000, and yes, it’s quite good for what it is.

Everything on my website from 2004/5 was taken with an S5000 and my trip to Scotland was done with the S5600. I’m happy with it. You might like my Old Warden 2004 and Branscombe 2005 pictures especially.

But it costs a lot less than your budget. Look at something higher up the range. If you can order online, you will find the much superior S9500 for £313 on amazon.co.uk.

The Kodak Z740 is NOT a DSLR it is, like the Finepix cameras, a prosumer. It has an LCD viewfinder.

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